handofzeus
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It's stupid crap like this that puts us all in a bad light....STFU!
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A Way to Get 10 Rounds in SKS Legally?
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Really? Maybe you should relax! It's folks over reacting like this ^^^ is why we have stupid laws...
Yeah, I should be banned for talking about doing something to my SKS that everyone in Canada who has one would like to do.
It was made to hold 10 rounds, and mine is going to hold 10 rounds, one day. I'm talking about doing it legally, otherwise it would hold 10 rounds right now.
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handofzeus
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Good way to focus attention. Okay lab-guys, the 'gun-people' have found a way around our rules. Next step, bye bye to all sks's in canada. If you find a way, that's YOUR business. The idea of someone else's big-mouth ruining MY pasttime really pi$$es me off!
Two simple ways to get 10 rounds in a SKS:
1- Move to the USA and have mags of any damn capacity you might want!
2- (much better!) Vote Conservative, give some money and explain you want normal capacity mags... Also, get involved with groups like the NFA and CSSA so gun laws are changed so you can have mags of any damn capacity you might want!
1- Move to the USA and have mags of any damn capacity you might want!
2- (much better!) Vote Conservative, give some money and explain you want normal capacity mags... Also, get involved with groups like the NFA and CSSA so gun laws are changed so you can have mags of any damn capacity you might want!
Using 10 round pistol magazines that happen to fit rifles is a well established practice in Canada. Sorry, I didn't realize that not everyone knows that.
The XCR-L 10 round pistol magazine is approved for Canada and it is perfectly legal to be in posession of this magazine.
We're not finding a way around any rules because there IS NO RULE saying you can't put a 10 round pistol magazine in a rifle. The law prohibits possession of a rifle magazine that holds more than 5 rounds or a pistol magazine that holds more than 10 rounds. Again, there is NO LAW saying what rifle you can put the magazine in. The magazine itself is the only prohibited device, if it holds too many rounds for it's classification.
The XCR-L magazine that I'm talking about is marked "pistol" and has been approved by the RCMP for use in Canada. Or I shouldn't say for "use" but rather for "possession." What you use it for is irrelevant and not part of the criminal code.
Does this sound a little better now?
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A newbie question: If a semi-auto riffle has more than 5 bullets in the magazine (say, an SKS with an original 10 round magazine), is it considered a restricted firearm, or prohibited?
That would suck. The "deal" here is "listen people, we will allow you to have semi-auto riffles if you keep the magazine size at 5 rounds max". If this rule is unenforceable, easily circumvented and regularly violated, the next "logical" step is either to give up the magazine size rule... or ban semi-automatic riffles. So it is dangerous territory...
A newbie question: If a semi-auto riffle has more than 5 bullets in the magazine (say, an SKS with an original 10 round magazine), is it considered a restricted firearm, or prohibited?
That would suck. The "deal" here is "listen people, we will allow you to have semi-auto riffles if you keep the magazine size at 5 rounds max". If this rule is unenforceable, easily circumvented and regularly violated, the next "logical" step is either to give up the magazine size rule... or ban semi-automatic riffles. So it is dangerous territory...
The man is talking about creating a magwell adapter so the SKS can accept legal ten round pistol mags. This is something that is already being done in Canada with other rifles (VZ58, Swiss and others I'm sure). I seriously doubt that it would even raise an eyebrow at the CFC.
Prohibited. Don't even think about unpinning mags, it's simply not worth it. If caught, you will lose all your guns and most likely go to jail.
It has nothing to do with the firearm. It's the magazine itself that is considered prohibited or not.
If you have an SKS with the original 10 round magazine, it is ONLY the magazine part that is prohibited. Even if you take that magazine out of the SKS, it's still prohibited (the magazine). The classification of the SKS doesn't change. Just the mag, whether it is mounted in the gun or not.
If you got caught with one, you'd be charged with one count of possession of a prohibited weapon, the magazine. If you had that magazine in an SKS with a barrel that was too short, for example, then you'd get two counts of possession, the rifle AND the magazine.
The XCR has pistol version in 7.62x39
The CSA VZ58 in 7.62x39 with the 7.5" barrel could have been marketed as a pistol if the stock was removed. We could have 10rd mags for our CZ858's
Actually, right now my SKS holds 10 rounds nicely. When I bought it, it wasn't pinned. But I've spent a few $ more to get a factory mag that is pinned, so its legal.
It might be interesting to think about, and I suppose its good excercise in getting to know the laws. But even if someone actually found a way around a law, the laws would only change again.
Its the criminal code, and not firearms regulations, that restrict magazine capacity to 5 rounds for centerfire semi-autos. The criminal code describes a 'cartridge magazine' as a 'device' or 'container'.
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/PDF/C-46.pdf
Since the law limits the capacity of semi-auto centerfire magazine containers to 5 rounds... someone might think to use multiple containers... multiple 5 round mags combined into a single feed system, either feeding round in parallel one at a time, or in series so that one mag tops up the other. The problem there is that this system of multiple containers can also be referred to as a 'device'. In other words, still viewed as a single system holding more than the allowed cartridges. So I doubt that would work.
But... it might be interesting to think about what would happen if you mechanized the act of swaping magazines. This is something we do manually, and is perfectly legal. If someone had a sort of 'auto-reloader' that automatically swapped mags when one ran dry... that might fall into a grey area.
Thanks for the tips I'm gonna get on that asap.
And yes I will make sure it's perfectly legal first FYI.
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