What does that fit? The M&P 9mm?
A Way to Get 10 Rounds in SKS Legally?
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What does that fit? The M&P 9mm?
Any pistol that uses the same lower frame between their 9mm and .40
It can be used in M&P 9's, Glock 17's, etc etc.
Or can be used in M&P 40's and Glock 22's if you swap to a 9mm barrel. Use the same mags but load them with 9mm.
Thirteen rounds of 9mm in a .40 S&W magazine brings up another point:
Rifle magazines are limited to five rounds, and pistol magazines are limited to ten rounds OF THE TYPE OF AMMUNITION FOR WHICH THEY WERE DESIGNED. That's how the law is written.
So if you happen to be able to cram more of a different cartridge in the magazine, and it works in your gun, you have not broken the law by doing so.
Remember, it's the magazine itself that is either prohibited or not. You either are allowed to possess it, or you are not. What you choose to actually do with it is of no consequence.
Here's an example of a ruling on a 10 round pistol magazine, which also happens to fit some semi-auto rifles: https://shopquestar.com/shopping65/q_images/LAR Pistol Mags Ruling 2008-06-18.pdf
Of particular interest is the last sentence: "they do not qualify as 'prohibited devices' and the further use of these magazines on any other firearm is not regulated."
MEANING, you can possess this 10 round magazine, and you can use it in any other firearm. (if it fits)
Same goes for the XCR 7.62x39 Pistol magazine. The RCMP has issued the same type of ruling for that magazine. If we can fit that in an SKS, it's just fine.
Rifle magazines are limited to five rounds, and pistol magazines are limited to ten rounds OF THE TYPE OF AMMUNITION FOR WHICH THEY WERE DESIGNED. That's how the law is written.
So if you happen to be able to cram more of a different cartridge in the magazine, and it works in your gun, you have not broken the law by doing so.
Remember, it's the magazine itself that is either prohibited or not. You either are allowed to possess it, or you are not. What you choose to actually do with it is of no consequence.
Here's an example of a ruling on a 10 round pistol magazine, which also happens to fit some semi-auto rifles: https://shopquestar.com/shopping65/q_images/LAR Pistol Mags Ruling 2008-06-18.pdf
Of particular interest is the last sentence: "they do not qualify as 'prohibited devices' and the further use of these magazines on any other firearm is not regulated."
MEANING, you can possess this 10 round magazine, and you can use it in any other firearm. (if it fits)
Same goes for the XCR 7.62x39 Pistol magazine. The RCMP has issued the same type of ruling for that magazine. If we can fit that in an SKS, it's just fine.
Comrad, we do not take interest in capitalist pig ammunition. If 50 beowulf magazine can make fit 7.62x39, then we have winner. I like.
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Correction. Only semi-auto centerfire rifle mags are limited to 5 rounds. The 'normal' rifle magazine limit is 'unlimited'.
True, I keep forgetting that. However, other than the Lee Enfield, can you think of any centerfire non-autoloading rifle that has a detachable magazine that will hold more than five rounds?
I am trying to think of one, but I can't. If they don't sell it, then it doesn't matter if it would theoretically be legal.
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Well if your not suggesting this is a good idea.....then don't suggest it at all.
Some things are better left unsaid.
Let me clarify, my original comment about holding the magazine shut with a rubber band to fit more rounds in it is a dumb idea.
One the other hand, adapting an XCR pistol magazine to fit the SKS is a very good idea. If it was illegal, it would be a bad idea, but since it isn't, I'm gonna do it. To use a car analogy, it's like removing all the emissions equipment and turning it into a race car. It becomes illegal for use on the road, but not illegal to own and use for target practice...errrr...offroad racing, I mean. (You couldn't hunt with a 10 round SKS).
The fact that a long rifle mag can normally hold any number of cartirdges is important because it highlights the fact that the semi-auto centerfire exception is an abnormality, and not 'the norm'.
It also highlights the fact that we need a complete re-write of the regulations. There should be one license and it allows you to own anything as long as you use it responsibly. Either you are fit to be trusted with guns, or you are not.
There is nothing wrong with being a firearms enthusiast and wanting one of each gun ever made and every accessory made for it. Or ten of each. I love my hobby and it offends me greatly that some gun hater decided that my beatiful SKS should have an ugly rivet in it. I am a law abiding citizen, third generation Canadian, gainfully employed, landowner, contributing member of society, and some asshat Liberal, who probably lives off my tax dollars, wants an effing rivet in my SKS. It's not right.
Wow, the amount of fear here is astonishing
The guy who can design and build bottom metal for an SKS to hold xcr pistol mags will be rich.The market will find him.
bonus points if we can still use the clip...
Yup. I am standing by with $$$ in hand.
Or they've just removed the rivet blocking their magazine. (Illegal, so hopefully that's not what they did).
Instead of borrowing a magazine from my friend, I went ahead and ordered one from Wolverine last week. Since someone else has already done it, I know it's possible, and therefore I don't mind spending the money.
Once I get it, I can start figuring out how I'm going to make it work in the SKS, without any modifications to the magazine.
Something interesting occured to me though. Do these magazines disassemble at all? In other words, do I have to use the ENTIRE magazine?
The reason I ask is because recently a judge in BC upheld a conviction for a guy who had parts of prohibited magazines. The ruling was that even though it is just parts, and not the whole magazine, it's still illegal to possess those parts. Well, by that same logic, if I have parts of a LEGAL magazine, those parts are also legal to possess and use for whatever purpose, right? I can't modify the parts in any way, of course, but having the individual pieces should be okay. What I'm getting at is maybe I can use only parts, unmodified, of the XCR magazine, rather than the whole magazine.
Of course, if it doesn't disassemble, then that is a moot point. I haven't even examined one in any detail yet, so I really have no idea if disassembling it would be of any use in this project... Probably not at all. It's just something I was thinking about.
OP; the answer to your original question is...No.
And there are all the answers you need, in surprisingly plain English. Thanks for the link!
Beats me, but I think you may be stepping into a legally grey area on that point. Probably best to keep the unit as a whole.
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