A Way to Get 10 Rounds in SKS Legally?

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ok , i understand it ,

same in Quebec some people don't not the legal status of the 10 round lar-15 mag ^^

some reaction are weird but putting 10 round legally in a sks is great he was done for that ! and the bad liberal put it to five -_- !
 
The other option is cut the magazine follower out then stack the rounds up right Im sure you can get more then 5 in there sure its not loaded but you can cram them in..
 
mdmaroon said:
I didn't do any rapid fire because that would cause way too much excitement at the range. I did do a couple quick shots in a row, but not a whole magazine or anything like that.

Let's just say, there are people who don't understand or want to believe that this 10 round magazine is legal despite my best efforts to explain it to them. Someone packed up his stuff and left the range because of this! I thought that was kind of weird...

So yeah, rapid fire would have gone over real well...
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Yikes.. That range must be located in the Anti district of Fuddackistan :eek:
 
Watching this project with great interest. Your perseverance seems to be paying off. Hope you do well with this.

BTW, as if it really matters...an about turn is done to the right. And as my old instructor said 40 years ago "LOCK THEM THIGHS SO YOU DON'T WOBBLE LIKE A DRUNK!" tehehehe
 
TRaTSeRiF said:
Yikes.. That range must be located in the Anti district of Fuddackistan :eek:
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Parksville...

Well, the guy who didn't like my 10 round magazine was a retired cop. Other people WANT to believe it's legal so they can do it too. He wanted to believe that it was illegal.

I very nicely explained to him that this 10 round magazine is designed for a pistol, and therefore it has a 10 round capacity. I showed him CFC bulletin 72 which explains that it doesn't matter what gun you use the magazine in. It only matters what it was designed for. The magazine is either legal to possess, or it is not. This one is legal.

It's too bad. I would have let him try it. Everyone else enjoyed it.

I was surprised that he packed up and left. I wasn't an a-hole about it. I just explained the law, and provided references for him to see for himself on the RCMP website. I guess the law wasn't what he wanted it to be. Sorry, I didn't make it, parliament did. Not my fault.

When he told me it was illegal, I certainly wasn't going to shut my mouth and let everyone at the range think I had an illegal gun. I think I did the right thing in informing him.
 
mdmaroon said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZTdRLdyKzA

Another video from yesterday. I ran 10 stripper clips through it without a jam. It's pretty hard to get all ten rounds in with the clip. I usually had to load the last couple by hand.
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What are the possibilities in the future to have it mag fed as well ?

Can a fix be done with more machining so the mag will operate properly ?

BTW - what you have done so far .... KUDOs
 
sendmorebrains said:
What are the possibilities in the future to have it mag fed as well ?

Can a fix be done with more machining so the mag will operate properly ?

BTW - what you have done so far .... KUDOs
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I think it would be possible, but all I wanted to do is make it so I can load a whole stripper clip.

If I had the equipment to do this at home, I would probably do more, but I would have to do it at work. Too many people wondering what I was doing would take the fun out of it.

I've thought about trying to use a BT Magwell adapter, like for the CZ858, but I don't want to spend $200 on this without knowing if I could make it work.
 
mdmaroon said:
Parksville...
Well, the guy who didn't like my 10 round magazine was a retired cop.
I very nicely explained to him that this 10 round magazine is designed for a pistol, and therefore it has a 10 round capacity. I showed him CFC bulletin 72 which explains that it doesn't matter what gun you use the magazine in.

It's too bad. I would have let him try it. Everyone else enjoyed it.

I was surprised that he packed up and left.
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Looks like he chose his profession for all the wrong reasons, based on his behavior. Fortunately, there are plenty of us who appreciate your good work :canadaFlag: :cheers:
 
TRaTSeRiF said:
What if a few of us pitched in and put the money together? 10x$20 or 20x$10 should do it ;) That way, more of us share the risk :p
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But then I'd feel bad if I couldn't get it to work.

A friend of mine has an 858 with the adapter. Next time I go shooting with him I'll bring some calipers and measure the thing. Then I can at least get some idea if it would even be worth trying to use it with the SKS. I'm guessing I would have to modify the adapter as well as the receiver to make such an unholy creation work.

You wanted a write up on how to do this. Here's the short version:

1. Remove material at front of magazine well to make room for XCR magazine.
2. Grind bolt so it no longer has rails that lock into the magazine, taper at rear, notch in front, as shown in one of my videos linked earlier in this thread. Essentially you're making the SKS-D bolt (not sure if it's exactly the same).
3. Screw a piece of metal to the side of the receiver to make a catch to hold the magazine in.
4. You have to cut the front of the trigger group off a little so it will fit.
5. Modify the bolt catch so it works with the new magazine.

My videos show pretty much everything you need to do. I didn't measure anything while I did this. I just got the magazine and started hacking and slashing until it fit!

I would recommend waiting until I can get a look at my friend's BT adapter. That would be the way to go if it works!
 
Someone get this man a medal, or at least some sort of prize.

Very excellent work.

Oh so tempted to buy an sks and try this myself.
 
mdmaroon said:
But then I'd feel bad if I couldn't get it to work.

A friend of mine has an 858 with the adapter. Next time I go shooting with him I'll bring some calipers and measure the thing. Then I can at least get some idea if it would even be worth trying to use it with the SKS. I'm guessing I would have to modify the adapter as well as the receiver to make such an unholy creation work.

You wanted a write up on how to do this. Here's the short version:

1. Remove material at front of magazine well to make room for XCR magazine.
2. Grind bolt so it no longer has rails that lock into the magazine, taper at rear, notch in front, as shown in one of my videos linked earlier in this thread. Essentially you're making the SKS-D bolt (not sure if it's exactly the same).
3. Screw a piece of metal to the side of the receiver to make a catch to hold the magazine in.
4. You have to cut the front of the trigger group off a little so it will fit.
5. Modify the bolt catch so it works with the new magazine.

My videos show pretty much everything you need to do. I didn't measure anything while I did this. I just got the magazine and started hacking and slashing until it fit!

I would recommend waiting until I can get a look at my friend's BT adapter. That would be the way to go if it works!
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Thanks for the writeup.

You have already risked bricking your own rifle, so it would be the least we can do to spread out the risk among a bunch of us. It's all about risk management, like insurance. There'd be no hard feelings if you can't get it to work and the community would be appreciative of you trying.

If you can mitigate the risk by inspecting a BT adapter, that's a great idea and we'll be looking forward to hearing the results.

I'm not 100% sure if I'd be getting one.. I might just go with your method and use stripper clips instead as spending $200 on an adapter for a $200 rifle before even looking into stuff like stocks and sights rubs against my sensibilities a bit, but the mad scientist in me wants to see the experiment through ;)
 
mdmaroon said:
But then I'd feel bad if I couldn't get it to work.

A friend of mine has an 858 with the adapter. Next time I go shooting with him I'll bring some calipers and measure the thing. Then I can at least get some idea if it would even be worth trying to use it with the SKS. I'm guessing I would have to modify the adapter as well as the receiver to make such an unholy creation work.

You wanted a write up on how to do this. Here's the short version:

1. Remove material at front of magazine well to make room for XCR magazine.
2. Grind bolt so it no longer has rails that lock into the magazine, taper at rear, notch in front, as shown in one of my videos linked earlier in this thread. Essentially you're making the SKS-D bolt (not sure if it's exactly the same).
3. Screw a piece of metal to the side of the receiver to make a catch to hold the magazine in.
4. You have to cut the front of the trigger group off a little so it will fit.
5. Modify the bolt catch so it works with the new magazine.

My videos show pretty much everything you need to do. I didn't measure anything while I did this. I just got the magazine and started hacking and slashing until it fit!

I would recommend waiting until I can get a look at my friend's BT adapter. That would be the way to go if it works!
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Even easier if you are just willing to fix the 10 rounder in place and not have it detachable.

I could have a 10 round SKS in 1-2 hours worth of work.

Having stripper clips load all 10 into a 10 round mag makes the Chinese SKS chest rig a great super lightweight option.

Oooo the choices..... :D;)
 
mdmaroon said:
Wow, I thought all this 10 round pistol magazine stuff was common knowledge.

Thank goodness I started this thread so everyone who was ignorant of the law could learn something. Just doing my part.
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I can't believe the amount of FAIL some of the other posters have brought to your thread. In post 1, you lay it out clearly. Some people take a while for stuff to sink in. I'll keep watching out of interest and to see the ongoing strange replies.
 
KeltecFan said:
I can't believe the amount of FAIL some of the other posters have brought to your thread. In post 1, you lay it out clearly. Some people take a while for stuff to sink in. I'll keep watching out of interest and to see the ongoing strange replies.
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In all fairness, some of the information wasn't there when I started this thread. I edited the first post later.
 
I thought you were a little wacky and confused but after reading al this I take it back, good job sticking with it. Well maybe a little wacky still but in a good way LOL. I have a beatup and bubba'd SKS-M I might use for this. It has already got the receiver clearanced for AK mags so I will have to check to see if XCR mags will still fit half decent.

There is no mag hold open in the M's though and bubba cut off the stripper clip guides. I had to make a new bolt to fit this gun so that might be able to work with some more fitting and I'll buy a new bolt carrier to install for stripper clip use. I would like to see more detail on how you did the mag catch to hold the mag in the gun and how you controlled the mag seating depth if you don't mind.

Thanks Brad
 
Your original fixed magazine is not a pistol magazine, putting more that 5 rounds, whatever the way, will put you in troubles.

Putting a LAR pistol mag in your SKS, hmmm. Not without extensive modifications and you can end up with reliability problems. Not sure if a LAR for .223 can hold 10 7,62x39 either.

I don't think it worth all those headaches. Simply get a gun that can accept the LAR mag.

my 2 cents
 
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