ACR or XCR?

I would assume that it would require you to have an rpal and an att to use it a range. If you have the non-restricted barrel in the receiver I would assume you can transport it and use it like any other non-restricted.
I guess it would be an interesting point of law if you had the restricted barrel with you but not inserted while transporting it in non-restricted format and no ATT.
Would it be unlawful to reconfigure it at the range to restricted assuming you did not have an ATT but did have your RPAL and it was registered.
Seems a good reason for the ATT to go away.
 
A vote for the XCR/ XCR-M. Beautifully made with a nice heft and a reassuring feeling of solidity, well thought out controls, consistently accurate, sublime operation and supremely reliable. Not to mention the quick change calibers. Have had mine forever and it still gets a lot of use.

Have fired an ACR to test (~800 rounds) in the US as part of a carbine course and came away under-whelmed as there was nothing that really stood out. It was just another slightly different looking, and less mature, AR wannabe.

Sorry chaps - I really wanted to like it as it was the closest we can get to a SCAR here in Canada but after my experience, I ended up cancelling my Questar order and getting another AR instead.

FWIW - get what you really want as that is what this hobby is about. They both will perform just fine for us civvies :)
 
nemesisincanada said:
I would assume that it would require you to have an rpal and an att to use it a range. If you have the non-restricted barrel in the receiver I would assume you can transport it and use it like any other non-restricted.
I guess it would be an interesting point of law if you had the restricted barrel with you but not inserted while transporting it in non-restricted format and no ATT.
Would it be unlawful to reconfigure it at the range to restricted assuming you did not have an ATT but did have your RPAL and it was registered.
Seems a good reason for the ATT to go away.
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Yes, you'd need your RPAL, ATT and the ACR would need to be registered to use a restricted length barrel at a range. When the LGR ends that does present an interesting scenario, though - since the upper is the registered component on the ACR. Clearly if you're using an 18.7" barrel that makes it non-restricted you're also not subject to any of the requirements of a restricted firearm. Yes, you can definitely transport the restricted barrel assembly because it's not the registered component. No, in the scenario you indicate that would be a definite no-no because you'd still need the ATT for the ACR itself to use the restricted barrel assembly.

You raise a very interesting (and convoluted!) scenario, but here's how I envision it would work (and this is just my best WAG - wild-a**ed-guess). These are all post-LGR, too:

1. You would register your ACR, obtain a hybrid registration certificate for all the multiple restricted barrel lengths (and calibers, if applicable) and the necessary ATT.
2. When transporting it to the range, if you have a restricted barrel assembly installed - it would be subject to the transport requirements for restricted firearms. If there's no barrel assembly installed (but you have a non-restricted barrel assembly present as well), it would then be treated as a non-restricted firearm for transportation purposes.
3. When at the range you could shoot it in restricted or non-restricted configurations.

But I'll go you one further with an additional one: could you transport your registered and restricted ACR - sans any installed barrel assembly - out to say Farmer Joe's field for some varmint duty? I would also say yes - even if you had a separate restricted length assembly - provided you also had the non-restricted length assembly with you.

Confused yet? I sure as heck am...! Maybe this is why the RCMP took almost a year to reclassify the ACR. Anything that causes the CFC grief (sorry, bit of SCAR payback - I'm entitled) is worthy in my books.

So an additional +1 for the ACR because it messes with the CFC. w:h:
 
Maybe I have it wrong but I just saw a website selling ACRs for 2049 and with a multi caliber bolt assembly.

Specifications
•Bushmaster® (ACR) Adaptive Combat Rifle
•Manufacturer Number: ACRFR16MB
•Action: 2 Position Gas Piston Driven System
•Caliber: 223 Remington/5.56 NATO/6.8mm Remington SPC

I thought this was coming soon, not here already
and it's in stock, ready to ship.....not to Canada though.
 
brandneo said:
ATT go away, that's another dream. But I'm liking the acr a lot better
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You may like it even more after my latest example. ;)

nemesisincanada said:
For the ACR owners is the standard trigger a 6.5lbs single stage.
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According to Remington's specs, it's a "Standard AR/M-16 trigger, 4.5 – 6lbs". I haven't yet installed my Geissele SSA ACR trigger, but I found the stock ACR trigger to be very enjoyable to shoot. I would imagine my shooting experience will get bumped up a notch or two with the Geissele.
 
brandneo said:
Maybe I have it wrong but I just saw a website selling ACRs for 2049 and with a multi caliber bolt assembly.

Specifications
•Bushmaster® (ACR) Adaptive Combat Rifle
•Manufacturer Number: ACRFR16MB
•Action: 2 Position Gas Piston Driven System
•Caliber: 223 Remington/5.56 NATO/6.8mm Remington SPC

I thought this was coming soon, not here already
and it's in stock, ready to ship.....not to Canada though.
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I believe that's just advertising - no different than RobArms indicating the XCR-L is rated for 223/5.56/7.62/6.8SPC. The 6.8SPC kits (barrels, bolts) are not yet available for the ACR, and I can almost certainly guarantee they would not sell a multi-caliber kit (5.56mm and 6.8SPC barrel + BCG assembly) with a folding stock and aluminium tri-rail for $2,049 USD. That would be nice, but I wouldn't get your hopes up...

I also think this is probably the base ACR - with the fixed (vs. folding stock) and standard polymer hand guard.
 
I don't know, you tell me.

This Bushmaster® (ACR)Adaptive Combat Rifle is battle ready and tactically armed. With a combination folding and 6 position stock and the multi-caliber bolt carrier assembly, this Bushmaster® (ACR)Adaptive Combat Rifle is ready to adapt to your shooting situation and style. Able to fire suppressed or unsuppressed due the adjustable 2 position gas piston drive, this Bushmaster® (ACR)Adaptive Combat Rifle also has an AAC blackout flash hider too. In the battle, on a mission, this Bushmaster® (ACR)Adaptive Combat Rifle is on you can depend and defend on.

Specifications
•Bushmaster® (ACR) Adaptive Combat Rifle
•Manufacturer Number: ACRFR16MB
•Action: 2 Position Gas Piston Driven System
•Caliber: 223 Remington/5.56 NATO/6.8mm Remington SPC
•Capacity 30 Round

•Barrel Length: 16 Inch
•Overall Length:
•Features:
◦Free-Floating MIL-STD 1913 Monolithic Top Rail
◦AAC Blackout Flash Hider
◦Multi-Caliber Bolt Carrier Assembly
◦Three-Sided Aluminum Hand Guard With Integral MIL-STD 1913 Rail
◦2-Point Push Button Sling
◦Multi Caliber Bolt Carrier Assembly
◦Fully Ambidextrous Controls
◦High-Impact Composite Hand Guard With Heat Shield – Accepts Rail Inserts
◦High-Impact Composite Lower Receiver With Textured Magazine Well And Modular Grip Storage
•Stock: Folding And 6 Position
•Stock Material
•Sights: Magpul® MBUS Front/Rear Flip
•Color: Black

The whole add
 
redivivus said:
A vote for the XCR/ XCR-M. Beautifully made with a nice heft and a reassuring feeling of solidity, well thought out controls, consistently accurate, sublime operation and supremely reliable. Not to mention the quick change calibers. Have had mine forever and it still gets a lot of use.

Have fired an ACR to test (~800 rounds) in the US as part of a carbine course and came away under-whelmed as there was nothing that really stood out. It was just another slightly different looking, and less mature, AR wannabe.

Sorry chaps - I really wanted to like it as it was the closest we can get to a SCAR here in Canada but after my experience, I ended up cancelling my Questar order and getting another AR instead.

FWIW - get what you really want as that is what this hobby is about. They both will perform just fine for us civvies :)
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That's certainly true. I think if the ACR had come in closer to the proposed retail price and with a weight closer to that of the SCAR it would have received a more favourable reception.

With respect to controls, though - I've handled an XCR - and the controls are intuitively better on an ACR. The completely ambidextrous nature and location of the charging handle, magazine and bolt release are perfect (the bolt release/hold is actually along the bottom of the trigger guard - pretty slick).

Once various barrel assemblies and caliber kits are available I imagine the ACR will become infinitely more popular (particularly with hunters in 6.8SPC). But the XCR is certainly stepping it up a notch with their new stock, and it has a solid following as well.

The ACR is definitely going to run you a bit more than an XCR (probably $500-$750), and of course there's the availability issues at the moment. If you can get a chance to at least handle both for feel - that would probably be a great place to start.
 
Dislclaimer: I should also point out for the record that I'm a Magpul whore, and can't get enough of the kool-aid. The Masada was always a dream rifle, so for me this is the fulfillment of a quest!

- No!!!...really???, I would have never guessed...:)
 
brandneo said:
Still, how do I get it here???....Price is only half the battle.
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Your export certificate will run you $500 (per attempt - with no guarantee it's approved), then there's shipping, importer fee, re-shipping, customs and duty. You'll probably find that you arrive at close to the $2,999 that Questar is selling them for.

Importing exotic black rifles is not necessarily for the faint of heart...
 
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