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Do you guys know of any places to get an inexpensive concealment vest and belt? I'm not looking to break the bank here, but want something half decent as well. Its for IDPA.

I like the 5.11 1-3/4" 'operator' belt, where would be the cheapest place to get this?

Also, what do you guys think about electronic ear muffs for this? I have a pair, but they're pretty weak (usually end up doubling up with plugs), I can get a pair of peltors (non-electronic) with very good protection for not that much money, but would be losing out on the electronic part of it.

Thanks
 
before buying a 1 3/4" belt I would make sure the pants your planning on using will take that wide of a belt..... most pants take 1.5"

concealment vest, surprisingly marks work wearhouse has a good selection as does a few other places that would surprise you.... think outside the box when it comes to concealment :)
 
as far as electronic muffs, i bought the dual-mic ones from Cabellas (i think it was about $60 shipped), they're are not the fanciest ones in the world, and they "look" a little bulky; but i find they work well for pistol (and i've used them often in an indoor range)....granted you can get the more $$$ ones that'll be a little more streamlined and may have a few more bells and whistles but these where half the price !!!...besides i prefer to spend my extra $$ cash on AMMO !!!!!
 
if you look at the pictures of the Trails End IDPA shoot (I'm the one with the cammo hat and blue shirt shooting), you'll see the green muffs i'm talking about
 
Westicle said:
before buying a 1 3/4" belt I would make sure the pants your planning on using will take that wide of a belt..... most pants take 1.5"

concealment vest, surprisingly marks work wearhouse has a good selection as does a few other places that would surprise you.... think outside the box when it comes to concealment :)
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Never even thought of them, will definitely check it out.

tch1717 said:
as far as electronic muffs, i bought the dual-mic ones from Cabellas (i think it was about $60 shipped), they're are not the fanciest ones in the world, and they "look" a little bulky; but i find they work well for pistol (and i've used them often in an indoor range)....granted you can get the more $$$ ones that'll be a little more streamlined and may have a few more bells and whistles but these where half the price !!!...besides i prefer to spend my extra $$ cash on AMMO !!!!!
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Well, I have some Princess Auto ones, but they're only 22 NRR, I find that isn't enough, especially when indoors or shooting beside a 1911 or something like that. I would like to get a pair with a NRR in the high 20s, but I dont think there is a pair that does that for under $100

My guess is the electronic ones are the way to go to hear SO commands
 
Just starting out you don't really need a vest. Most of us start out with a normal shirt unbuttoned and untucked. As long as your gun and mag pouches are concealed when you hold your arms outstretched parallel to the ground you are legal.

Belt depends on if you are using a belt loop attached holster or a paddle. Any reasonably stiff 1+" belt is good enough either way. Sometimes I just use my normal 1' leather or nylon street belt. Works fine for casual practice or club matches.

If you like the game start looking at what the guys are using and ask a few questions and you will soon be in the know.

For what its worth for IDPA I use a Safariland paddle holster and a Fobus paddle double mag pouch. Tucked inside my pants of course. I use a very stiff 1 3/4' leather gunbelt in my belt loops. Works very well.

For IPSC I set up a CR Speed belt with a Bladetech Bobby Magee pro Series holster and double mag pouch plus 2 single Ghost mag pouches. Holster is concealment type belt loop attached. Exact same position -and draw - as my IDPA rig.

Keep it simple to start. No use spending money until you actually get through a match or two and really know what you like.

John
 
Onagoth said:
..My guess is the electronic ones are the way to go to hear SO commands
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If you want to spend money on E-muff sgo ahead but....I used normal Peltor behind the head for a long time with no problems. You won't usually have any problems hearing the SO. Again, if you have muffs or even plugs go with them until you have a chance to shoot some stages. Check out what everyone is using, ask some questions...before you know it you will know firsthand what is what.

Better to know what you want and just buy once...more money for ammo!!!!!


John
 
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After calling me a troll in another thread, I find myself not interested in anything you have to say..... kindly move along.
 
Onagoth said:
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After calling me a troll in another thread, I find myself not interested in anything you have to say..... kindly move along.
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John in BC is right though about equipment, try out what you have and ask around, i was just letting you know what i use. standard muffs work OK, but i did find it hard to hear the SO/RO at times, and it was knida a pain having a conversation between shots (always taking them off/on), where i find that with my electronic muffs normal conversations are heard easily (unless someone else is right beside you shooting, in which case they "shut-off" for a split second)
 
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John in BC is right though about equipment, try out what you have and ask around, i was just letting you know what i use. standard muffs work OK, but i did find it hard to hear the SO/RO at times, and it was knida a pain having a conversation between shots (always taking them off/on), where i find that with my electronic muffs normal conversations are heard easily (unless someone else is right beside you shooting, in which case they "shut-off" for a split second)
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I really like the ones I use, but, not enough protection...Plus, since I was needing to double up with the plugs, it kinda defeated the purpose of having electronic muffs. I was looking at Peltors (just for the hell of it) they're electronic muffs are nice, but holy $$$
 
tch1717 said:
John in BC is right though about equipment, try out what you have and ask around, i was just letting you know what i use. standard muffs work OK, but i did find it hard to hear the SO/RO at times, and it was knida a pain having a conversation between shots (always taking them off/on), where i find that with my electronic muffs normal conversations are heard easily (unless someone else is right beside you shooting, in which case they "shut-off" for a split second)
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Yes that is why I bought e-muffs - for talking and scorekeeping while there is shooting going on. I kept getting caught with my muffs up and then someone would shoot before I could get them down again. Not good.

John
 
John in B.C. said:
Yes that is why I bought e-muffs - for talking and scorekeeping while there is shooting going on. I kept getting caught with my muffs up and then someone would shoot before I could get them down again. Not good.

John
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E-muffs work awesome for pistol, but i find (the ones i have anyways) get in the way for rifle/shotty shooting, in which case i just use plugs
 
I use Hawaiian shirts, get them cheap at the discount stores. Makes me feel like I'm Magnum PI or Sonny Crocket. I wear a sleeveless undershirt and when its my turn at bat I unbutton the shirt so I can sweep it out of the way like a vest or jacket. For colder weather I use a zip up hoodie (not a pull over).

For ear protection, I used to use Leightning High Attenuating earmuffs with nrr of 31 dB (32$ brand new here on CGN a while ago), but they get hot in the summer, I find myself using the disposable foam earplugs that have a nrr of 32 dB, you can get a box of 80 pairs for about 20$ at crapy tire.
 
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Onagoth said:
Do you guys know of any places to get an inexpensive concealment vest and belt? I'm not looking to break the bank here, but want something half decent as well. Its for IDPA.

I like the 5.11 1-3/4" 'operator' belt, where would be the cheapest place to get this?

Also, what do you guys think about electronic ear muffs for this? I have a pair, but they're pretty weak (usually end up doubling up with plugs), I can get a pair of peltors (non-electronic) with very good protection for not that much money, but would be losing out on the electronic part of it.

Thanks
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5.11 belt is great. I also use a yates riggers belt which I prefer every day. I find the stiffness of the 5.11 belt unnecessary usually when the belt fits well though.

Vest... Who cares. Get something that covers, wear an old dress shirt. You should actually practice with may things, and start with things you don't care if they get a hole... hehe.

Ear protection... I cant believe people cheap out on this.

You need protection AND to be able to communicate.

MSA Sordins and Peltor TacPro's (or something) have similar NRR's to the toughest average non electronics.

Waterproofing and hard use an issue, or are you a once a month safe queen kinda guy?

The MSA Sordin or similar should be your end goal. Double plugging with some cheap electronic peltors is a start.

You can also use the new SureFire plugs to help with low or unsatisfactory performance from cheap muffs and electronics.
 
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