AIA's 7.62 x 39mm M10A2 Carbine - Pics
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back in 05, I used a 'test' 7.62mm NATO No4 AIA rifle at Belmont rifle range, and I took pics, so I will include these when I send off some of the M10A2 to Jeff1911.
I picked up my computer last night, and I will be home tomorrow after work (copping a 24hr tour as DO right now) to get things on there way.
Some good close ups of the 10rd M14 mags, the 7.62 x 51mm reciever etc, and the same for the 7.62 x 39mm version too.
Cheers, and;
wait out!
Wes
PS - I too looked at MARSTAR's website and nothing yet????
I picked up my computer last night, and I will be home tomorrow after work (copping a 24hr tour as DO right now) to get things on there way.
Some good close ups of the 10rd M14 mags, the 7.62 x 51mm reciever etc, and the same for the 7.62 x 39mm version too.
Cheers, and;
wait out!
Wes
PS - I too looked at MARSTAR's website and nothing yet????
Ok, today I have today sent jeff1911 some pics of both the 7.62mm M43 and the 7.62mm NATO versions of the AIA family of small arms.
So, watch out for them, and add your comments, questions and whatever.
Regards from yet another warm sunny day here on the coast of the Coral Sea,
Wes
So, watch out for them, and add your comments, questions and whatever.
Regards from yet another warm sunny day here on the coast of the Coral Sea,
Wes
grayrc said:
Thanks for that web address. Looks like a very tasty rifle...
Any good deals in .308 ammo out there? Is it cheaper than .303?
Can this rifle handle 7.62 and .308 loadings? I've seen writeups where .308 is loaded much hotter than 7.62 by 51.
The AIA No4 is well up to 308 pressures.
It's constructed from high grade modern steels and precision machined so it's well up to those pressures.
Remember, the Indian made No4s were chambered to 7.62 NATO.
I couldn't tell you how ammo deals are out there, at least in terms of mil surp stuff.
Sporting ammo comes cheap enough though and there's a wide range.
It's constructed from high grade modern steels and precision machined so it's well up to those pressures.
Remember, the Indian made No4s were chambered to 7.62 NATO.
I couldn't tell you how ammo deals are out there, at least in terms of mil surp stuff.
Sporting ammo comes cheap enough though and there's a wide range.
grayrc said:
Hi Tom,
AIA is the Australian company that designed the rifle. Lithgow had no part in the design of the rifle. The rifles are made in Vietnam by the state's factory (the same factory that produces their military rifles). All proof testing is done by this factory. The rifles are very well made and finished.
As to whether it is worth the money this depends on what you want the rifle for. If you are a collector, no. If you are looking for a military style rifle for shooting; the ease of obtaining good quality cheap .308, the ability to mount a scope inexpensively make the No.4 Mk.IV a good option.
Regards,
(edited by request)
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom and Thanh
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 11:01 AM
Subject: re AIA M10 rifles
Hi, I'm in Canada. The AIA M10 .308 rifles are just being imported here for
the first time now.
We are curious about their provenance. We hear Australia, we hear Vietnam.
I've heard that AIA is just one guy in Brisbane and there is nothing else in
Australia. They were possibly first developed at Lithgow but subsequently
moved offshore to Vietnam.
Who proof tests them and ensures their safety and quality? Specifically, is
it a plant in Vietnam that does everything?
How does the quality compare to the original military surplus rifles?
They are not cheap guns. Is one of them worth the extra money when you can
buy for example a collector grade Enfield cheaper?
Sincerely,
Tom
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Canuck223 said:
I found this a trifle interesting...
http://spentbrass.co.nz/?p=89
<"# Bruce Gentner Says:
October 22nd, 2004 at 23:34
Just a few comments, but first a confession: I am the bloke who designed the AIA M-10 series of rifles.
It started out as a 'What if' thing back in the mid 90's. Then when the sky fell in for us in Oz in 1996, I figured that the next best thing to a semi auto was the most versatile bit of 19th century iron aound; the Lee Enfield. So a few of us pooled the money the generous taxpayers of Australia gave us for our 'naughty' guns and decided to stop #####ing and moaning, get off our arses and do something useful.
With a bit of research and creative reverse engineering, I came up with the idea of a modular bolt action rifle system. Not entirely original and I had a lot of experience with those nifty black guns beforehand. Not easy to do with one piece stock systems either.
Why the Lee Enfield? Short receiver for cartridge length, slick, fast action, grew up shooting the things on the range and in the bush. Mauser variations are a dime a dozen. What the hell,why not?
The first production guns were in 7.62 x 39, 16 and 20 inch barrel options. Why? SKS replacement for ripped off Australian shooters. Comment on the 16″ version from first display at SHOT Show in Vegas: 'Great truck gun'.
7.62 NATO (NOT .308 Win) There is a family of these coming. The No4 'clone' is the first. There were a couple in use at Tamworth service rifle match last weekend. I shot but did not set the world on fire; years spent at the computer and on the machine shop floor do not make up for range practice.
They are accepted for Service shooting here in OZ by many clubs for several reasons: A lot of people shoot the event not the equipment and are using what they have or what suits them. There are enough equipment classes in most club matches to cover such an item. A mint Fazakerly Irish contract No4 is now fifty years old and they are the newest bolt gun around that fits the bill and works, ( apart from a tiny number of spectacular 1969 vintage M-39 Finnish Nagants ). 7.62 x 39? How many 12 year old kids or beginner shooters are at ease with the 7.62 NATO without a lot of careful coaching?
We are a tiny operation with small but slowly growing output. For the moment, all we are making is tthe M-10B series which consists of rwo models at present; the M-10B1 ('No4 Mk4″ and the M-10B3 which is a field rifle with a 560mm (22″ barrel. One of the prototype B3's has been on trial on a pest destruction project and at last count had no failures or breakages after 8000 rounds in 4 months in rough conditions. The users have been told to work it until they break it.
If anyone is interested, a few technical notes on the M-10B1.
Magazine: Basically a 10rd M-14 Mag with a hard chromed follower and without the front catch hole.
Breeching system: Brewer collar, ( like a Savage 110 ) This saves on fooling around with multiple bolt head lengths for headspacing.
Bolt Head: Design incorporates cartridge head support collar and a spring loaded plunger ejector.
Barrel 640mm, 1: 10 RH twist, Hard chromed bore and chamber.
Front Sight: Fully windage and elevation adjustable unit in the same size package as the original No4.
Rear Sight: Variation on Mk 2 'L' flip job. Apertures set for 400m and 200m. 'Singer' Mk1 or Mks 3 and other ladders will drop in.
Receiver: Drilled and tapped for our steel Picatinny rails.
Wood work: Teak
Nifty bits: Middle and front bands are hinged like early N01 Mk6 / trials rifles. Stock bolt in the butt has a 12mm hex head instead of a screwdriver slot, Butt plate is steel with proper trap. Safety catch is Canadian Style. Trigger is hung on the receiver like a No4 Mk2. Trigger grooved like a No1.
Metal Finish: Phosphate (Parkerizing)
We have prototyped a clone of the L-42, just for fun. Maybe later next year. 5.56 and 6mmPPC; Ditto.
Cheers,
Bruce">
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