Akkar Churchill 206 Orcap - High Select Walnut Oil Finish 12ga

Scotchline said:
Basically inertia triggers are a single trigger that is reset to the second barrel by the recoil of firing off the first.
Some "higher end" shooters claim that when firing light loads there isn't enough of a jolt to set the second barrel and then they miss a shot.
I've shot more than a few thousand light loads and never had an issue with my beretta but apparently it's big business switching inertia triggers out for mechanical ones...
I would say if you're looking at this gun you probably aren't shooting at a level where you care by what mechanism your trigger resets .
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Mechanical triggers are better for those who use the o/u or sxs for hunting like I do. It is not a matter of light loads not initiating the second barrel in my case. But if I spend 3 hours walking and then I flush a grouse, and then the shell in one barrel happens to be faulty and did not fire, I will watch my grouse fly away and will have to hope for another flush sometimes in the day :)

So I prefer mechanical triggers when it comes to hunting. One shell does not fire and I hear a TICK... I just shoot the other one...

So just to avoid these kind of situations...
 
Grousing said:
Mechanical triggers are better for those who use the o/u or sxs for hunting like I do. It is not a matter of light loads not initiating the second barrel in my case. But if I spend 3 hours walking and then I flush a grouse, and then the shell in one barrel happens to be faulty and did not fire, I will watch my grouse fly away and will have to hope for another flush sometimes in the day :)

So I prefer mechanical triggers when it comes to hunting. One shell does not fire and I hear a TICK... I just shoot the other one...

So just to avoid these kind of situations...
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Seems to me that you need a better dog and nice 16 gauge side by side.

Also I forgot to mention, there is a barrel selector.
 
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well, I'm curious about something.

very nice looking gun, but if it's got that iffy trigger, is there a mechanical upgrade for this model and is it worth doing or spending that difference on another make/model that comes with mechanical triggers already?
 
Mr. Friendly said:
well, I'm curious about something.

very nice looking gun, but if it's got that iffy trigger, is there a mechanical upgrade for this model and is it worth doing or spending that difference on another make/model that comes with mechanical triggers already?
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I don't think the trigger is iffy . Inertia triggers have never let me down.... I will concede as Grousing said if the first shell fails then you have to bump your stock to reset the trigger OR flick the barrel selector . That said, the one out of a few thousand shells that may fail probably isn't going to ruin your life. It's a nice gun and the reviews are great but everyone has preferences. I've shot both types of triggers and never had an issue with either.
 
Now if I can guarantee to have the wood like the one of this ad photo, I will certainly order one :)

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Chuckbuster said:
My understanding is that it is not case hardening at all. Rather, it is a proprietary protective finish.
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I think you are right. Close inspection of the metal in the close up photos does not show that is is case hardening. Looks like a coat of finish... Could be mistaken though
 
Scotchline said:
I don't think the trigger is iffy . Inertia triggers have never let me down.... I will concede as Grousing said if the first shell fails then you have to bump your stock to reset the trigger OR flick the barrel selector . That said, the one out of a few thousand shells that may fail probably isn't going to ruin your life. It's a nice gun and the reviews are great but everyone has preferences. I've shot both types of triggers and never had an issue with either.
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well, I'm certainly not against trying it out as it is if I buy one...but the part about whether there are actual mechanical triggers available for this is still unanswered.

does anyone know if there is?

thank you muchly!
 
I asked North Pro here on the forum to confirm if the triggers are inertia, but no answer yet.

And a person I know who knows about shotguns etc saw the close ups of the actual pictures in this thread and told me that the shotgun looks more upscale than it is in reality. He noticed inconsistencies in the wood finish and the receiver seems polished to simulate hardening as it was mentioned above...

The ad photo is another story :)

That does not mean it is not a good value for the money, on the opposite, reviews are great and if it is like my CZ (made by Huglu) it should be reliable and solid

But this specific one is probably finished in a way that feels expensive but still affordable.

The basic trim of this one should be less expensive I presume

Cheers

Mr. Friendly said:
well, I'm certainly not against trying it out as it is if I buy one...but the part about whether there are actual mechanical triggers available for this is still unanswered.

does anyone know if there is?

thank you muchly!
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Grousing said:
And a person I know who knows about shotguns etc saw the close ups of the actual pictures in this thread and told me that the shotgun looks more upscale than it is in reality.
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What does that even mean? The images posted were straight from the camera, of one of the actual guns at North Sylva.
 
mebiuspower said:
What does that even mean? The images posted were straight from the camera, of one of the actual guns at North Sylva.
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I mean the photos themselves, if you look at the details, you notice the wood polish near the receiver, the receiver itself how it is made as if it is hardened etc. Accroding to this person, it is good value for money but from far away or from the Ad photos such as the one I posted here, it looks more upscale than in the closeups of the real photos.
 
Grousing said:
I mean the photos themselves, if you look at the details, you notice the wood polish near the receiver, the receiver itself how it is made as if it is hardened etc. Accroding to this person, it is good value for money but from far away or from the Ad photos such as the one I posted here, it looks more upscale than in the closeups of the real photos.
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You're scrutinizing a 1000 dollar shotgun like you're paying 10k for it.
 
Grousing said:
I mean the photos themselves, if you look at the details, you notice the wood polish near the receiver, the receiver itself how it is made as if it is hardened etc. Accroding to this person, it is good value for money but from far away or from the Ad photos such as the one I posted here, it looks more upscale than in the closeups of the real photos.
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Sorry, are you saying it is actually better or worse than the photos on page 1.

RF
 
Red Flyer said:
Sorry, are you saying it is actually better or worse than the photos on page 1.

RF
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It was not me who said it but that person I know, the shotgun is very GOOD value for money, if you don't look into how this or that was made to look expensive you are buying a shotgun that looks like a multi thousand dollars one.

Adding to this the fact that it has very good reputation in Australia. And I myself tried the Huglu brand (aka CZ) and I recommend it as well as the Yildiz.

What that person said, that in the pictures on page 1, if one looks at this or that detail in the wood and metal finish, we see that it is not as upscale as it looks from far away or from the official Ads photos of the company...

I saw other photos where the quality of the wood varies from one to another.

But I repeat, it is great value for money and I myself might get one if I don't settle on another option...

This been said, here is a plainer variation on the model destined for sporting (more expensive):

http://www.bullseyelondon.com/churchill-sporting-over-under-12-gauge-shotgun-32-barrel.html
 
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