alberta_outdoors
Regular
- Location
- Fairview, Alberta
Drawn for antlered mule deer and late season moose. Been 4 years since I got drawn for anything so better start shooting some more for practice.
Alberta draw results are up!
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Mighty Peace
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Land of the Mighty Peace
Bull Moose, Cow Elk for me. We have 4 guys in our Moose Camp group with tags this year again, plus 4 of us have cow elk tags too! Should be plenty of meat for 9 families this fall/winter.
Good luck everyone !!! Be safe !!
Good luck everyone !!! Be safe !!
I was drawn for mule deer buck and doe. The doe is my conservation contribution where I will purchase the license and tag but will not fill it. However, if the right buck is found I will harvest him.
For Christ's sake Track you, as a long time hunter, should know better. Filled doe tags help conservation and increase the herd strength. This has been scientifically proven. If you think not filling a tag helps deer then how do you find it ethical to hunt anything at all?
I'm not going to start an argument, this thread is for posting hunting draws, but you are hindering conservation efforts in this province by intentionally drawing tags that you will not attempt to use. PM me if you want scientific literature to read on the subject and not anecdotal evidence of a long-held incorrect belief that shooting does hurts deer numbers.
If you purchased the tag and draw just to contribute money for conservation: do better next year and don’t draw the tag, leave it for someone else and donate the money to any one of a number of quality organizations.
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I was drawn for mule deer buck and doe. The doe is my conservation contribution where I will purchase the license and tag but will not fill it. However, if the right buck is found I will harvest him.
You don't belong to PETA by chance?
By getting the draw with no intention of filling it, you are depriving some on else of the opportunity. Mule deer does are definitely not a threatened species.Grizz
skneub
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
that's right...as retarded as it can be.
You should at least be able to purchase your priority in the draws you should have been able to legaly apply for every year
But you can not
One year I missed the draws by 3 days because I thought they ended at a different time...NO Priority
skneub
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
I was drawn for mule deer buck and doe. The doe is my conservation contribution where I will purchase the license and tag but will not fill it. However, if the right buck is found I will harvest him.
Thanks ....guys like me that would have loved to get a draw thank guys like you.....
Im sure theres a few drawn in my zone of choice that will not be hunted and it sucks
Like I said, "it's my conservation contribution", my way of doing it. I've been conducting this for decades and I also purchase the supplement whitetail tags and don't fill them either. There are many ways to contribute to wildlife, and this is one of a few that I conduct. For the mule buck tag, if I can't find a buck that gross scores 190 B&C I won't shoot any thing at all. If I don't see a whitetail buck that doesn't score 160 B&C I will not shoot anything at all...........my way of conserving wildlife in my hunting area and letting the smaller ones grow. If someone wants to draw a mule deer buck or doe tag they will have to wait their turn like I did.
What's stopping you from purchasing priority and what's stopping you from applying every year?
Yup!
That would be great if you were contributing to conservation; however, you are not. By drawing a tag and intentionally not hunting it you are hurting efforts to manage game. Being picky on a tag is fine, it's just part of a hunter's calculated success rate.
When the number of tags are decided it's not just some random number. It's a calculation based on hunter success rate, carrying capacity of the land and current number of animals.
Deer management is a science, and let me repeat it: just because you buy a tag and intentionally not fill it does not mean there is one more doe next year. By that logic every animal we harvest lowers the animal count. In fact the harvest is a carefully managed science, where game is harvested to the carrying capacity of the land. Which both keeps numbers steady year after year, and promotes herd health. Poor management, or no management, (and if enough people went by your logic) causes populations to explode above carrying capacity and then crash, and then explode and then crash.
Again, you should know this as I’m sure you know small game like rabbits have cycles where they are abundant, crash, then are abundant again. Large game would be like this too if it was not for quality management.
If you want to know how this works it is shown by the following formula:
Where r= per capita rate of population growth under ideal conditions
n= number of individuals
k= carrying capacity of land
t= time interval
tau= is a time lag to compensate for how current population growth depends on past population size (because it takes time for an animal to reach maturity)
If you work well with numbers: when N(T-Tau)<K harvest is beneficial to bring the population closer to carrying capacity. So even when a population is under carrying capacity, a harvest is beneficial to prevent a large swing above carrying capacity and a subsequent crash. The following is a chart that allows one to visualize this:
The chart above shows in pink number of individuals of a species if left on their own (obviously under exaggerated circumstances). The yellow line is showing when high harvest would be beneficial to bring the population smoothly to a carrying capacity of 100 individuals.
Here is another chart showing a stable population fluctuating right around carrying capacity. The yellow is showing where a well timed harvest actually dampens large swings above and below carrying capacity:
Play the system as it was meant to be played track. It truly is the ticket to strong populations of game animals.
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skneub
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Cant as far as I know purchase priority on a draw that you missed the deadline on
I do apply every year , except the one 3 years ago that I missed
Its been 3 years since I had a moose tag
Me ...no draws
My son ...no draws (actualy he should have moose draw in the bag as he has been in every year since he got his licence) and has never been drawn 18 this year
My wife ...no draws
This year we hunt white tail deer and bull elk
Last year we saw lots of bull elk...and had cow draws
But we did fill them...thankfully
Oh and we saw more than 11 bull moose...that we could have shot any of...so I took pictures instead...due to no moose tags
Lots of variety here too......lots of general tags too....both great places to be a hunter.
I spoke with Kim Morton, the biologist out of Lethbridge, and he advised me that an animal count had not been conducted for over a decade. That would be in the zone that I hunt mule deer. Government can only do so much and hunters have to continue to be the best conservationists. My intentions are unselfish and only thinking for wildlife futures, for me and others.That would be great if you were contributing to conservation; however, you are not. By drawing a tag and intentionally not hunting it you are hurting efforts to manage game. Being picky on a tag is fine, it's just part of a hunter's calculated success rate.
When the number of tags are decided it's not just some random number. It's a calculation based on hunter success rate, carrying capacity of the land and current number of animals.
Deer management is a science, and let me repeat it: just because you buy a tag and intentionally not fill it does not mean there is one more doe next year. By that logic every animal we harvest lowers the animal count. In fact the harvest is a carefully managed science, where game is harvested to the carrying capacity of the land. Which both keeps numbers steady year after year, and promotes herd health. Poor management, or no management, (and if enough people went by your logic) causes populations to explode above carrying capacity and then crash, and then explode and then crash.
Again, you should know this as I’m sure you know small game like rabbits have cycles where they are abundant, crash, then are abundant again. Large game would be like this too if it was not for quality management.
If you want to know how this works it is shown by the following formula:
Where r= per capita rate of population growth under ideal conditions
n= number of individuals
k= carrying capacity of land
t= time interval
tau= is a time lag to compensate for how current population growth depends on past population size (because it takes time for an animal to reach maturity)
If you work well with numbers: when N(T-Tau)<K harvest is beneficial to bring the population closer to carrying capacity. So even when a population is under carrying capacity, a harvest is beneficial to prevent a large swing above carrying capacity and a subsequent crash. The following is a chart that allows one to visualize this:
The chart above shows in pink number of individuals of a species if left on their own (obviously under exaggerated circumstances). The yellow line is showing when high harvest would be beneficial to bring the population smoothly to a carrying capacity of 100 individuals.
Here is another chart showing a stable population fluctuating right around carrying capacity. The yellow is showing where a well timed harvest actually dampens large swings above and below carrying capacity:
Play the system as it was meant to be played track. It truly is the ticket to strong populations of game animals.
