Alberta Tactical Rifle Supply Any Good?
- Thread starter zoarok
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...and last time I asked, the guys at ATRS are busy with LOTS of orders, both local and out of town customers. There was talk (still unconfirmed) of building some custom 20mm rifles! ATRS, feel free to comment/confirm/deny this.
ATRS is the "magic genie" of the Canadian firearm manufacturers. When I can afford to build a custom 300WM, I will do it right, and that means getting ATRS to build it. Their 700 receivers are a work of art. Ya they're expensive, but your bolt handle will never fall off because because it's a one-piece machined block. If price is your concern, don't get into shooting!
I have no axe to grind with ATRS and to be honest I was looking at your lowers a while back.
Unfortunately this $550 price without the LPK is not shown on your website and if I recall correctly I was told you wouldn't sell your lower without an LPK.
I bought a Noveske that was available at the time because I already had my components for the lower.
Hopefully my next one will have a maple leaf on the side of it.
I am also eagerly waiting on your magazines.
- Location
- calgary alberta
It would seem we had some miss-communication then. We have since the inception of our Gen 4 lowers preferred to install the LPK here, but everyone has always had the option of supplying their own LPK.
http://albertatacticalrifle.com/hik...listing/product/43-at15-billet-lower-receiver
- Location
- Fort St John B.C.
all i can say to Rick and ATRS.... work sets you free (Arbeit macht frei )
anyway enough of the joking, a lot of people have commented in this thread and said "how expensive" things are, yes they are expensive but not unresonably so.... they assemble each rifle by hand one at a time, again I will point out they have done the canadian ar15 a solid by getting the CAA 10 round magazines made, those that own thier products have all raved about quality, here we have a canadian GUNSMITH who will make your rifle right.
when I was getting my long range rifle made we discussed back and forth parts and such, and he built the rifle the way I wanted it. the only thing we changed at his suggestion was the barrel lug, a lot of gunsmiths are very edgy about installing parts they have not worked with before but rick was all into it, we sent a timeline, depsoit was sent and every month for 4 months while I was on a driling rig (with internet and email) i sent further payment..... he worked with me to afford a better rifle then i otherwise could have. (complete package with nxs scope and fitted pelican case)
support local as much as you can, you owe it to yourself to buy quality once in a while, everything doesn't have to be norinco.
anyway enough of the joking, a lot of people have commented in this thread and said "how expensive" things are, yes they are expensive but not unresonably so.... they assemble each rifle by hand one at a time, again I will point out they have done the canadian ar15 a solid by getting the CAA 10 round magazines made, those that own thier products have all raved about quality, here we have a canadian GUNSMITH who will make your rifle right.
when I was getting my long range rifle made we discussed back and forth parts and such, and he built the rifle the way I wanted it. the only thing we changed at his suggestion was the barrel lug, a lot of gunsmiths are very edgy about installing parts they have not worked with before but rick was all into it, we sent a timeline, depsoit was sent and every month for 4 months while I was on a driling rig (with internet and email) i sent further payment..... he worked with me to afford a better rifle then i otherwise could have. (complete package with nxs scope and fitted pelican case)
support local as much as you can, you owe it to yourself to buy quality once in a while, everything doesn't have to be norinco.
Quoting the link you supplied there is no mention of a stripped or partially stripped lower.
There is also mention that they will only ship as an assembled lower.
So to clarify I can send you my own LPK and you will install the components and charge me $550 for the lower? If this is correct it's a great price.
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AT15 Billet Lower Receiver
$685.00
Gen4's Now Available
This is the highest quality AR lower available in Canada. They are CNC machined from billet 7075 aluminum as opposed to cast from 6061 aluminum. This has allowed us to tighten up our tolerances considerably over a standard forged lower and has allowed us to employ several features not available in most "off the shelf" AR's. The magwell is EDM'd for flawless feeding and magazine fit with the Magpul PMag and CAA mags and features a generous flare for faster, easier mag changes. An adjustable spring loaded tensioning device has been placed under the rear take down pin to ensure the tightest possible fit between the upper and lower receivers. The finish is Mil-Spec Type III hardcoat anodizing. A couple of features we have added to our lower receivers are the rear takedown spring and detent are captured. We have employed a ball bearing for the safety as opposed to a sharp brass detent for smoother operation of the safety. We have also captured the safety ball bearing and spring with a set screw which allows you to adjust the stiffness of the safety. Our Gen 4 lowers have a built in ambi bolt release for getting "back in the action" faster between reloads.
Our Gen4 lowers are only shipped as an assembled lower and are available with standard Mil-Spec LPK, RRA two-stage trigger or Timney match trigger. We can also source JP and Geissele triggers. If you have a trigger group or LPK you would like to use, we do not charge to install it. With some of the features we have employed and additional parts and fitting required, we want to ensure your Gen 4 lower is functioning flawlessly before it leaves our shop. We are now selling our Gen4 uppers and lowers as a matched set for the tightest possible fit.
7075-T6 aluminum
Tight tolerances
Flared magwell
Texturing at front of magwell
Tensioning bearing at back of receiver for tight fit
Ambi bolt release comes standard
Ambi safety and ambi mag release available
Adjustable ball bearing safety
Captured safety and rear takedown pin springs and detents
Available in matched set with ATRS upper
Several safe/fire markings available
Custom engravings available
CANADIAN MADE!!
w/Mil-Spec LPK - $685
w/RRA - $885
w/Timney - $995
Dealer Pricing Available"
- Location
- calgary alberta
Reading this again I can see some ambiguity so will address this with the web guys asap.
Yes, for $550.00 we will supply you a lower. If you send us your LPK we will fit it and install it into the lower and ensure function at no added cost. Your total exposure is the $550.00 for the lower plus applicable taxes and shipping costs if required.
Thanks for the clarification.Reading this again I can see some ambiguity so will address this with the web guys asap.
Yes, for $550.00 we will supply you a lower. If you send us your LPK we will fit it and install it into the lower and ensure function at no added cost. Your total exposure is the $550.00 for the lower plus applicable taxes and shipping costs if required.
I think that making it more clear may also bring more business your way.
Looking forward to doing business with you in the future.
Yup it was a nice looking rifle with that grey camo Mac stock.
Keep in mind though you could get actions like sturgeon, Bartlet etc along with Lilja barrels, match triggers etc. Order the parts and have Corlanes put it together. A buddy of mine did this with a 338 and 50BMG. Parts at that time from Robertson including stocks (no longer an option but there are others). Doing a cost analysis would be interesting. Work out parts and labour.
Also you saw my 2K 5R with Conquest scope print it's second sub .4 moa centre to centre 5 round group with 168 Federal ammo. I shot that when you first got your rifle. Not as nice or fancy but it stil shoots. Goes to show there's no real magic to getting a shooter.
If the price was less I would consider buyin one. But I'm happy with my "budget" stuff, if going high end bolt I think I'd either get one put together from my sourced parts or go Blaser, DSR, desert tactical etc.
You familiar with tacticalrifles.net? That one example alone completely disproves your theory.
arcticcathonda
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Southern Alberta
arcticcathonda
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Southern Alberta
I was in the same position last year when I was looking for a brake. No real reviews on the AT15 so I took a chance and bought one. It is a fantastic brake, loud but very effective!
On par with the surefire brake for recoil management, but found it slightly better at muzzle rise mitigation.
Here is the one thing you should consider
I won't talk about cost
I won't talk about quality.
you can get feedback from others about there opinions on those two topics.
What I would bring your attention to is this which is pulled from their website about their Lowers.
Our Gen4 lowers are only shipped as an assembled lower and are available with standard Mil-Spec LPK, RRA two-stage trigger or Timney match trigger. We can also source JP and Geissele triggers. If you have a trigger group or LPK you would like to use, we do not charge to install it. With some of the features we have employed and additional parts and fitting required, we want to ensure your Gen 4 lower is functioning flawlessly before it leaves our shop. We are now selling our Gen4 uppers and lowers as a matched set for the tightest possible fit.
This statement above is what you need to understand. Their lowers are proprietarily and in order to fit your generic LPK from any of the listed named companies you will have to send it in so they can modify and install it, they will not send out their lower without fitting a LPK (supplied or not).
Understanding this statement in addition to the research you have already gathered will determine if this is the system for you.
best of luck
Trevor
I won't talk about cost
I won't talk about quality.
you can get feedback from others about there opinions on those two topics.
What I would bring your attention to is this which is pulled from their website about their Lowers.
Our Gen4 lowers are only shipped as an assembled lower and are available with standard Mil-Spec LPK, RRA two-stage trigger or Timney match trigger. We can also source JP and Geissele triggers. If you have a trigger group or LPK you would like to use, we do not charge to install it. With some of the features we have employed and additional parts and fitting required, we want to ensure your Gen 4 lower is functioning flawlessly before it leaves our shop. We are now selling our Gen4 uppers and lowers as a matched set for the tightest possible fit.
This statement above is what you need to understand. Their lowers are proprietarily and in order to fit your generic LPK from any of the listed named companies you will have to send it in so they can modify and install it, they will not send out their lower without fitting a LPK (supplied or not).
Understanding this statement in addition to the research you have already gathered will determine if this is the system for you.
best of luck
Trevor
- Location
- calgary alberta
So then does 1 assume you own an AT15 and have made detail comparisons between the 2 makes? To make a blanket statement like you have without having both to compare is rather ridiculous.
How does being a mechanical engineer make any difference apart from adding a degree of arrogance to your post?
Sorry but this is epic fail unless you have something definitive, you are only putting out your "opinion" which are like arm pits, and everyone has a couple.
So why are yours better the KAC? Just because they cost more? Seems to be the only argument going for ATRS...
What if ATRS was compared to DD which is about half the price and someone said they were comparable? Obviously an idiot right....
