Alex Robinson needs a kick in the nuts

Shrapnel said:
There are newly made FAL in the USA from DSarms that have short barrels and all the new goodies you can find on more modern rifles... If the Conservatives scrap the prohib class, I will surely buy one!
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That's a pretty big If. Think about it.. if they de-restrict the AR the opposition and antis will give them grief, saying the Cons are making Canada more like the USA and if they de- prohibit the FAL they get more grief from the Opposition and the antis who will play up to hysteria about prohibited guns being MGs and sub MGs and easily converted blah, blah, blah...

And what happens if some nut takes an AR or a FAL or... whatever, that was restricted or prohibited and kills people with it? What gain is there for the Cons compared to risk? The gratitude of the gun community? Seriously.

I hope I'm wrong. I'd buy a AR set up for hunting and a FN C1A1 too.
 
fugawi said:
That's a pretty big If. Think about it.. if they de-restrict the AR the opposition and antis will give them grief, saying the Cons are making Canada more like the USA and if they de- prohibit the FAL they get more grief from the Opposition and the antis who will play up to hysteria about prohibited guns being MGs and sub MGs and easily converted blah, blah, blah...

And what happens if some nut takes an AR or a FAL or... whatever, that was restricted or prohibited and kills people with it? What gain is there for the Cons compared to risk? The gratitude of the gun community? Seriously.

I hope I'm wrong. I'd buy a AR set up for hunting and a FN C1A1 too.
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I know there's no way I can go on a shooting spree......my "Authorization To Transport" doesn't allow for it. Paper protects us all. :rolleyes:



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Wally said:
well if another company beats them to a reasonably priced, black .308 OR if the cons deprohibit the FAL/AR10... Robarm can go f**k themselves....
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The clock is ticking for all of us. Much as I'd like to see deprohibiting the absurdly heavy FAL, I don't think it is going to happen. I'll take my XCR and its imaginary locktite problems now and enjoy it. You guys who have your panties in a knot are missing out on a fine rifle based on a silly Mad Max standard.
 
fugawi said:
Many consider the Norinco M305 inferior to the Springfield M1A. You will hear the same about Norc 1911 compared to Colts, etc. Yet the Norcs are used as shooters just as they are or as platforms to build upon.

I, my shooting partner, and many many others - not just firearm owners but Canadians that earn income by providing gunsmithing, parts, accessories and workshops - benefit from these 'inferior' firearms. Same goes for the Norc M4: inferior to some when compared to your Noveske, HKs, Stags, Armalite, etc.

Yet these guns sell and probably help keep some dealers in the black.

The Mosin Nagent M91 rifle is consider inferior by some to a German, Swedish or Yugoslavian mauser yet dealers are bringing these in from the Ukraine and selling them. Having the option to choose an inferior rifle does promote the firearms community within Canada. Go read the Milsurps threads.

Canadian firearms companies have grown providing upgrades for the 'inferior' parts on otherwise quality firearms - go look at the Banner ads or NEA and NEIT web sites for proof. I personally have given good money to NEA and Wolverine Supplies, both members of the Canadian firearms community, to upgrade my CZ 858.

If you consider the quality of new manufactured firearms as compared to rifles made years ago you will hear that these guns are inferior in workmanship (post '64 to pre '64 Winchesters, current Marlin rifles). Yet walk into your local sporting goods store and there they are on the shelf. Right next to the Norinco Coach Gun. Do these guns, inferior as they might be, not promote the firearms community? Would you rather see empty shelves?

When the XCR-M finally becomes available then it will sell or not based on its merits. The proof will be in the sales.

Answer this... If Robarms manufactures an inferior product, why is Wolverine Supplies selling the the XCR-L, XCR pistol and will sell the XCR-M when it becomes available?
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oh my god...... owned

read the whole thread and this sums it up nicely
you don't like it don't buy it but don't ruin it for everyone else with your senseless whining
 
CHeMO80 said:
oh my god...... owned

read the whole thread and this sums it up nicely
you don't like it don't buy it but don't ruin it for everyone else with your senseless whining
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Great contribution there CHeMO80. Why don't you take your own advice and read the whole thread. Lots of folks are tired of the whining and the useless dump on so an so and such and such threads.
 
The Giant said:
I haven't either. We recently saw a well respected barrel dealer in Canada fold things up because he is tired of dealing with idiots. Maybe if he did something similar to what Alex did it would have made a difference with the idiots. I doubt it but he is gone now.

One of my points here is it doesn't matter how good your product is or how good of a guy you are idiots will be idiots and it doesn't mean that the vendor is a poor businessman.
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Is there a thread about this closure?

I recall a thread where a barrel maker(?) asked about interest in new .303 barrels for No4 Lee Enfields. The attitude shown in that thread was snarky and abrupt IMO. I remember thinking at the time that I'd look elsewhere if that was the attitude to potential customers.

But maybe that was someone else?
 
let them make a good gun?? they already made the damn thing. change the f**king barrel and it and send it out. they have 3 versions already made (223/65/762) atleast give us something!
 
Euro said:
let them make a good gun?? they already made the damn thing. change the f**king barrel and it and send it out. they have 3 versions already made (223/65/762) atleast give us something!
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XCR-M is a different frame so a simple barrel change will not work. The mag well will be different also and the versions will be only calibres based on the 308 case like 243 and 260.

I asked about that the last time I stopped in at Wolverine in Virden. I asked a couple of weeks ago when the XCR-M would be out and was told fall of this year.
 
Shrapnel said:
There are newly made FAL in the USA from DSarms that have short barrels and all the new goodies you can find on more modern rifles... If the Conservatives scrap the prohib class, I will surely buy one!
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Sorry to go off topic, I haven't had the internet for 3 months, if there any information about this possibility, or is it just the normal talk?
 
My XCR does everything i want it too. Havent had problems, treat it the same way i treated any AR i had, and didnt have trouble with them either. I like the XCR, i like the AR, they all shoot like crazy. If i HAVE TO pick a problem, i guess i could find one anywhere i look. Maybe i am lucky, but i like the XCR i have.
 
Hope its true: Bryce from Wolverine posted that he's hoping the specs on the XCR-M to be available soon.

Wolverine Supplies said:
To clarify, we are hoping to have a list of specifications soon. Delivery is still unconfirmed.
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Mr Wolverine said:
Maybe this week but probable next week.
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Keep your fingers crossed.

I also noticed that there are three .223 XCRs for sale on the EE as well as two RFBs and one ACR if anyone is interested.
 
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