All-New: Type 81M

One guy posted a pic, not exactly conclusive. If every single T81 buyer came on this thread and verified that is the only way we would get a count of how many bent rifles there are and the proportion per variant. Which is not going to happen
 
One guy posted a pic, not exactly conclusive. If every single T81 buyer came on this thread and verified that is the only way we would get a count of how many bent rifles there are and the proportion per variant. Which is not going to happen

The Norincos aks in late 80s/ 90s were same. I sent a fix back to century firearms for that reason. Hit or miss sometimes. I wouldnt be buying one double the cost or without the warranty. I was was like the 5th last guy to buy fixed so Im weeks away from holding one. Under folder is very appealing.
 
Bent rifles have been blown out of proportion to the extreme imo. People act like they dont work or something
(maybe in the most extreme cases they dont but not that im aware of) I had one for the longest time and didnt even realize it. Was just as accurate as any other t81 i owned, as the sights are attached to the barrel itself and zeroed the "bend" has no effect on seemingly anything other than aesthetics for the most anal retentive people. Again i didn't even notice the bend, as most never would unless specifically hunting for it. Never bothered me but to each their own. For this price and for a rifle ive never even heard of anyone having a stoppage with bent or no, it's still an amazing deal any way you slice it.
 
Bent rifles have been blown out of proportion to the extreme imo. People act like they dont work or something
(maybe in the most extreme cases they dont but not that im aware of) I had one for the longest time and didnt even realize it. Was just as accurate as any other t81 i owned, as the sights are attached to the barrel itself and zeroed the "bend" has no effect on seemingly anything other than aesthetics for the most anal retentive people. Again i didn't even notice the bend, as most never would unless specifically hunting for it. Never bothered me but to each their own. For this price and for a rifle ive never even heard of anyone having a stoppage with bent or no, it's still an amazing deal any way you slice it.

The windage goes out of wack if you want to run optics but yeah otherwise it's fine.
 
Bent rifles have been blown out of proportion to the extreme imo. People act like they dont work or something
(maybe in the most extreme cases they dont but not that im aware of) I had one for the longest time and didnt even realize it. Was just as accurate as any other t81 i owned, as the sights are attached to the barrel itself and zeroed the "bend" has no effect on seemingly anything other than aesthetics for the most anal retentive people. Again i didn't even notice the bend, as most never would unless specifically hunting for it. Never bothered me but to each their own. For this price and for a rifle ive never even heard of anyone having a stoppage with bent or no, it's still an amazing deal any way you slice it.

I can see where a guy that never noticed would not be bothered by it..... I could also see where someone that actually noticed it would prefer it to be straight.

I'm constantly blown away by how much most people don't notice in Modern Canada.... it's no wonder workmanship is going down hill in some trades....most people don't notice the difference between a job well done and "good enough"
 
Bent rifles have been blown out of proportion to the extreme imo. People act like they dont work or something
(maybe in the most extreme cases they dont but not that im aware of) I had one for the longest time and didnt even realize it. Was just as accurate as any other t81 i owned, as the sights are attached to the barrel itself and zeroed the "bend" has no effect on seemingly anything other than aesthetics for the most anal retentive people. Again i didn't even notice the bend, as most never would unless specifically hunting for it. Never bothered me but to each their own. For this price and for a rifle ive never even heard of anyone having a stoppage with bent or no, it's still an amazing deal any way you slice it.

First it is not normal to have a rifle bent, they probably get bent because they stack them and under the weight they get bent. Maybe you don't care you only care to hear the bang but for most people they want a proper rifle straight and normal not curved. A curved rifle will not hold zero it will be all over the place and some people want to put a scope on it and maybe use windage i myself care very much that the rifle is very very straight if you don't care yo just want it to make noise that's what you like.
 
I would suggest that these rifles aren't "bent" in the sense that forces were applied to bend them. Nor are the barrels bent - curved. I suspect the trunnion installation in the pressed steel receiver is the problem. The axes of the receiver, barrel seat in trunnion, and barrel are off. It is a manufacturing error.
By all means, inspect the rifle on receipt, and if there is a problem, get hold of TI.
So far it doesn't sound as if this is an issue with the current import batch.
 
Apparently the bent rifle issue is back, according to a guy on Facebook! Fingers crossed this is a bs Facebook post and not true.

Customer measured gun, barrel is only 0.6mm off center, therefore within specification.

The top handguard is not centered perfectly, as well as the top cover and the opening on the right side, making it look "bent". Due to inaccuracies in using visual methods, the proper way to measure is to remove top cover and bolt, use a straight edge with stand-off blocks clamped to side of receiver, then measuring the differences at the barrel end.

There were less then 0.05% (half of a tenth of a percent) rifles affected over the entire SA and SE shipments, yet continues to be a big and ongoing controversy.
 
Customer measured gun, barrel is only 0.6mm off center, therefore within specification.

The top handguard is not centered perfectly, as well as the top cover and the opening on the right side, making it look "bent". Due to inaccuracies in using visual methods, the proper way to measure is to remove top cover and bolt, use a straight edge with stand-off blocks clamped to side of receiver, then measuring the differences at the barrel end.

There were less then 0.05% (half of a tenth of a percent) rifles affected over the entire SA and SE shipments, yet continues to be a big and ongoing controversy.

Thanks TI for you awesomeness, bringing these awesome guns in at a reasonable price, having incredible customer service and just being a great retailer. Lots of strange people who take massive issues with indeed small issues, 0.05% is such a negligible figure and yet some made it a massive deal. Also, you guys I'm sure handled that incredibly well with anyone that actually had a real product issue.
 
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