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Hi everyone,
I'm hoping someone can offer me advice.
According to regs you must hunt with expanding ammunition.
Obviously that means lead tipped ammo.
What about hollow point? That's expanding ammo, technically it should be allowed.
Is it?
 
guido said:
You need to take a hunter training course.
There are many different types of ammo that expand with no lead content.
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I have my core
If alternate ammo was covered I wouldn't be asking the question.
I'm assuming by your answer it's fine?
I haven't found any official links to confirm.

Btw... I like your sig.
"Why is it that some people have to continually prove themselves a douchebag?"
 
I'm not saying any ammo is fine.
Maybe I came across wrong. I am not blaming you.
They should have at least covered the difference between expanding and non-expanding bullets. It's a pretty important item.
FMJ's are illegal to use for hunting.
Btw, with 4 posts, I assume your a returning exiled member?
 
guido said:
I'm not saying any ammo is fine.
Maybe I came across wrong. I am not blaming you.
They should have at least covered the difference between expanding and non-expanding bullets. It's a pretty important item.
FMJ's are illegal to use for hunting.
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Thanks for answering back.
They advised that lead tip is required for hunting because it's expandable but did not go over any other allowable ammo. We had to know the difference between fmj, HP etc and we're told that FMJ was not allowed. We weren't told about expandable ammo options.
I'm looking for advice on whether I can purchase HP and use it for hunting.
I'm specifically looking at:

https://www.canadaammo.com/product/detail/1000-round-case-of-lcw-non-corrosive-7-62x39-hp/
 
JammerMan79 said:
They advised that lead tip is required for hunting
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You were told wrong. There are many non-lead expanding options that are legal and there are many traditional jacketed bullets without a lead tip that are legal. They just have to be designed to expand. The bullets you linked appear to be expanding so they would be legal but that doesn't necessarily make them a good choice for big game.
 
jammerman79 said:
i have my core
if alternate ammo was covered i wouldn't be asking the question.
I'm assuming by your answer it's fine?
I haven't found any official links to confirm.

Btw... I like your sig.
"why is it that some people have to continually prove themselves a douchebag?"
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whammee, Alice!!!!
 
sheephunter said:
You were told wrong. There are many non-lead expanding options that are legal and there are many traditional jacketed bullets without a lead tip that are legal. They just have to be designed to expand. The bullets you linked appear to be expanding so they would be legal but that doesn't necessarily make them a good choice for big game.
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Understood... thank you
I wouldn't be regularly hunting with them. I've recently purchased an SKS and figured that if I was buying ammo, I'd might as well buy some that could technically be used for more than target practice.

My primary hunting rifle is a savage 111 international trophy hunter in 30-06

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Of course used with the 4 round mag, not the 10 round in the pictures.
 
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Yes, I believe HP is allowed in BC.
Barnes and others make solid copper (NO lead) bullets specifically for hunting.
 
Right off the top, for B.C.
17 (1) A person commits an offence where he hunts

(a) with a rifle using

(i) a full metal jacketed non-expanding bullet, or

(ii) a tracer, incendiary, or explosive bullet,
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A hollowpoint is not prohibited for hunting in BC. I believe any firearm industry or law enforcement expert would consider core and cup hollow points to be expanding bullets, same as soft points, lead solids, Lead free hollowpoints, etc.

Buy whatever you want for plinking ammo, cheap HP or cheaper milsurp FMJ is good since you might go through hundreds of rounds at a time...
Buy 1 box of $25 soft points which will be more appropriate for hunting. Fire five rounds to confirm the POI is the same as your plinking ammo. POI should be close enough at ethical 7.62x39 range for the same weight bullet. The rest of the box will last for several more years hunting. Ammo is the cheapest part of hunting so use something that will not compromise knockdown power.

The HP listed by the OP is bimetal (steel) jacket. Bimetal and hollow point are not necessarily a good mix for expansion IMHO. Ganderite did a test of HP vs soft point rounds.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1168545-7-62-x-39-Hunting-Bullet-test

I don't know if that was bimetal jacketed HP or not, you could ask him. Some more testing to capture the hollowpoint might be in order but it was definitely not as expanded as the others in that test.
 
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You can legally use any expanding bullet, which typically means any hollowpoint or softpoint bullet. You can get lead-free hollowpoints, like the barnes TSX/TTSX, and most of the cheap stuff is soft points.

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The only one you couldn't hunt with in this list would be the full metal jacket. The rest are all expanding bullets (Although boat tail isn't really a bullet style, so much as a feature any bullet could have) Technically, most of these bullets are soft points (which simply means exposed lead tip, whereas the hollowpoint has a hollow in its point to encourage rapid expansion.)
 
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