You bring up another aspect of scope use.... if all you do is dial in your favorite hunting load and don't adjust it after that for years or decades it's a different use case to someone that wants to often dial in different distances and have a reliable return to zero.
Alot of scopes are just rebadged.
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Well, Leupold makes a scope for the hunter and they market it as the CDS system.
Might no be what you are looking for, but it is a viable option for many hunters .
As an aside point, should this thread not be in the optics sub forum?
Tight Groups,
Rob
Hey TRIGGERHAPPYHIPPY, not every thread has to be about politics.
Believe it or not, some of us (who by the way are actively involved in politics and read every political thread), need a break from the constant barrage of political threads and want to just think about fun stuff for a little while.
Go start another political thread, and I might respond to it, but leave politics out of it on this one. Enough for a while.
Believe it or not, some of us (who by the way are actively involved in politics and read every political thread), need a break from the constant barrage of political threads and want to just think about fun stuff for a little while.
Go start another political thread, and I might respond to it, but leave politics out of it on this one. Enough for a while.
Leupold is very much a love hate for me, much like vortex.
Personally I would never buy one, not to say they suck or anything but its a each to their own.
Not big on anything they offer feature wise. A Swarovski z3 or z5 Imo is far better when comparing similar priced offerings.
Personally Ive switched over to NF, Steiner, and Swarovski.
I also agree with the others depends on the use of the scope for a range rifle/ coyote gun/ gopher gun.. its like whatever.
Back in the day wholesale sports used to have the bushnell .22 scopes with rings for 30$, used to sell a ton of them and I still have them on
rifles, nothing fancy but they worked just fine for plinking.
Another thing to remember this sport/hobby has gone crazy in cost over the last bit. ammo to rifles to optics and gear are insane.
Having said Im not judging anyways decisions there's clearly options out there across the board.
Just be happy to get out and shoot while we still can
Thanks Rob, I'm not looking for a scope right now, Leupold is one of the lighter weight options out there which is appealing for people looking to keep the weight down, I don't feel like Leupold is on the cutting edge these days but I'd expect them to return to zero....
Well said. I was about to say the very same thing. Take the politics to the political thread.
FatCatsDad
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What kind of scope do you use ?
I wasn't pimpin The Big L , just saying there are options for those who are looking.Thanks Rob, I'm not looking for a scope right now, Leupold is one of the lighter weight options out there which is appealing for people looking to keep the weight down, I don't feel like Leupold is on the cutting edge these days but I'd expect them to return to zero....
There are those who know what they are looking for and do not come here to CGN to poll the masses on what to buy to fit in.
I'm just stating the obvious for those of us (you included) that know what we are looking for.
Tight Groups.
Rob
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Japanese glass is usually really good. Swarovski will use Japanese glass too.
If you buy a cheap scope then warranty is good to have. Many scope companies have different lines of scopes from inexpensive to $$$$. I tend to avoid the bottom end of any line but if that's all your budget allows for, then get one with a good warranty.
Great article
This has been known for a long time. There are very few actual scope manufacturers, and even fewer glass companies. Most companies that "build" their own scopes are doing so out of glass packs and erector tubes and turrets etc that are made for them by someone else, oftentimes sourcing parts from different companies to make a single scope.
Here is a list of most of the OEMs out there and the brands/models of scopes they build, it's not fully up-to-date with the latest and greatest but does a good job of showing off which OEMs make which "tiers" of scopes.
https://sageratsafaris.com/category/optics-oem/
As a rule of thumb, I'd take anything LOW-built over anything else out there if I have the choice, but I don't always get to because Nightforce and Trijicon scopes aren't always in the budget.
Here is a list of most of the OEMs out there and the brands/models of scopes they build, it's not fully up-to-date with the latest and greatest but does a good job of showing off which OEMs make which "tiers" of scopes.
https://sageratsafaris.com/category/optics-oem/
As a rule of thumb, I'd take anything LOW-built over anything else out there if I have the choice, but I don't always get to because Nightforce and Trijicon scopes aren't always in the budget.
Some of the best grinders in the world are in Japan. I know, sorry, knew a lady that needed an extremely complex grind for the lenses in her glasses to see, they could only get them in Japan, as an example. - dan
Agreed. Kowa makes arguably the best spotting scopes in Japan.
If you can point me to a rebadged Bushnell Elite made in Japan today that retails for $250 or less I'm all ears lol.
Even a Nikon Prostaff 2 made in Philippines that retails for $150 I'd be quite happy to pick up several lol.
There are cheapish Burris, Vortex, etc made in Philippines, but they don't have the eye relief and clarity of the Nikon's.
Even a Nikon Prostaff 2 made in Philippines that retails for $150 I'd be quite happy to pick up several lol.
There are cheapish Burris, Vortex, etc made in Philippines, but they don't have the eye relief and clarity of the Nikon's.
Mogulrider
CGN Regular
We will never know. Except I can say the the glass and eye relief in the Cabelas is far better than any Burris, Bushnell low-end scope I've looked through.
Itās not made by Vortex. Vortex makes very little of its own product. Itās made by LOW, who also manufacture for Vortex.
