Ammo from Canadain Tire

I am very much aware of this, stubblejumper, and what I said in my last post still stands.

I guess all that remains is to see if your local CT store brings in and maintains the stock that you are asking for.Let's see if they think that it's a good business decision.
 
Canadian tire doesn't sell reloading supplies,and most don't sell firearms.They also don't handle higher end cleaning products or clothing.The smaller stores provide these items,and even if it means paying a little more to have them available locally,I will do just that.I live in a city of 100,000 where there is no place to buy reloading supplies,or better quality clothing and accessories because too many people bought all of their ammunition and supplies at places like Canadian tire,and the smaller shops could not make a living.

your logic is flawed. you would have to go the the smaller shops to buy reloading supplies anyways, as canadian tire doesnt stock them. you arent paying 'more' if it is the only option.

if the smaller shops cant make a profit, then i see no need to give a bailout to them. you could always order things online as well (including guns)
 
Unfortunately,if Canadian tire only buys small amounts from a manufacturer,even they won't get a volume discount,which means that they have to charge more.And if they buy small amounts of powder,the shipping costs are higher per volume,because of the shipping requirements.

the mark-up at the local shops usually more than makes up for this.
 
if the smaller shops cant make a profit, then i see no need to give a bailout to them. you could always order things online as well (including guns)


the mark-up at the local shops usually more than makes up for this.

Order a couple of pounds of powder online,then after paying the shipping fee,see if you could have bought the powder cheaper from a specialty shop that brings in powder orders on a regular basis.

I guess that my situation is different than yours,since the nearest gunshop is now over 400km away.I would gladly pay a bit more to not have to drive that far to buy what I need.
 
Order a couple of pounds of powder online,then after paying the shipping fee,see if you could have bought the powder cheaper from a specialty shop that brings in powder orders on a regular basis.

I guess that my situation is different than yours,since the nearest gunshop is now over 400km away.I would gladly pay a bit more to not have to drive that far to buy what I need.

your two statements are a contradiction.

first, you are complaining that buying powder online is too expensive. then you say that you would rather pay a bit more to not have to drive 400kms.
 
your two statements are a contradiction.

first, you are complaining that buying powder online is too expensive. then you say that you would rather pay a bit more to not have to drive 400kms.

No contradiction at all.I would rather pay an extra 10% at a local dealer which works out to at most $4 per pound,and not have to pay shipping,than pay 10% less online and have to pay an extra $10 per pound for shipping only two pounds of powder.The price of the powder might be higher locally,but the cost of shipping powder from the online dealer much more than offsets the cost difference.The same is true for buying loaded ammunition online,the cost of shipping is very high for small amounts.And if I drive 400km each way to buy either powder or ammunition,the cost of fuel,makes the overall cost ridiculously high.As such,I buy large orders of supplies,usually in excess of $1000 when I am in the city,to avoid having to make special trips for supplies.As far as primers are concerned, I normally buy 5000 or more primers at a time,regardless of where I buy them,so I don't run out and have to scrounge around to try and find some,or change a load because I can't find what I normally use.Yet some people insist on buying 100 or 200 at a time,then complain when they run out and can't find anyone with stock.
The prices may have been a little higher buying locally,but in the end it was cheaper than paying a little less for the product,and having to pay for shipping.
 
I live in Kelowna and there are two local shops that deal in ammunition. One never has stock because they have no where to store it so they only order what will fit on the shelves (I have never seen more than 3000 rounds of 9mm), and they do not order ammo often.

The other store has a heavy mark up. At last glance a 50 box of Federal White Box 9mm was going at $24 and .45acp was $36.

My only option right now is to stock up in Vernon, a neighboring town an hours drive from home. I would rather buy what I need, to supplement my reloads, when I go to the range and big ticket stores like Walmart of Canadian Tire are my only option.

P.S. As far as I know Canadian Walmarts not selling pistol ammo is a national policy.
Hey Jack, even being a reloader in this town is not easy. The two stores you are talking about don't carry much for selection and what they do is waaaay over priced. So i went to Vernon yesterday to get pistol lead and they were out there too! AAAAARGHH. Hey maybe C/T will stock reloading supplies too!!
 
Canadian tire doesn't sell reloading supplies,and most don't sell firearms.They also don't handle higher end cleaning products or clothing.The smaller stores provide these items,and even if it means paying a little more to have them available locally,I will do just that.I live in a city of 100,000 where there is no place to buy reloading supplies,or better quality clothing and accessories because too many people bought all of their ammunition and supplies at places like Canadian tire,and the smaller shops could not make a living.

You can't read or what?

YOUR Canadian tire might not sell reloading supplies. MY Canadian tire does.
 
You can't read or what?

YOUR Canadian tire might not sell reloading supplies. MY Canadian tire does.

I can read just fine.You posted.

The Can-Tire in Wetaskiwin even has basic caliber reloading dies, gunpowder, and a few other things, defiantly a gun savy owner!

If the basic supplies get you by,more power to you,many reloaders don't use the most common cartridges or components.We aren't content to use a certain powder or bullet,or primer,just because it is all that the local CT carries.The same goes for ammunition,some people go into a CT store and simply choose the cheapest load chambered in the cartridge that they are using.Some buy winchester one time then federal the next,whichever is cheapest at the time,and then go hunting,without even bothering to see if the loads have the same point of impact.If that is what you choose to do,then do just that,it's your money.
 
I can read just fine.You posted.



If the basic supplies get you by,more power to you,many reloaders don't use the most common cartridges or components.We aren't content to use a certain powder or bullet,or primer,just because it is all that the local CT carries.The same goes for ammunition,some people go into a CT store and simply choose the cheapest load chambered in the cartridge that they are using.Some buy winchester one time then federal the next,whichever is cheapest at the time,and then go hunting,without even bothering to see if the loads have the same point of impact.If that is what you choose to do,then do just that,it's your money.

I was just replying to your blanket statement. You can't say NO Canadian Tire's carry reloading supplies, as there's a few that do. I find it admirable that the owner of Can-Tire in Wetaskiwin, or any area for that matter, would cater to the gun/reloading crowd. It gives the small populous there a place to buy what they need without having to drive into the larger city centers, thus making that certain Canadian Tire one of these small reloading supplies shops you speak of, and they should be supported for there efforts.
 
According to the manager at my local Walmart (so take it with a boulder of salt) all Ontario CT and WM stores are forbidden to sell pistol ammo and will lose their ability to sell any ammo if they are found selling any. He said they had to have a meeting to decide if 22LR is pistol or rifle ammo...

Forbidden ? WTF !! is there any truth to this?
 
The gent that runs the Red Deer South store doesn't stock reloading supplies,but will special order in pretty much anything you want = presses, bullets,dies.etc. I got a ATI stock for a 303 brit. ordered in.

James no longer works at CT south. I am pretty sure he was fired from talking to people I know.

If you worked at a CT then maybe you can answer a few questions. Who in the store has the power to order pistol ammo?

The sports section manager. As far as the "power" to order it in anyone qualified could be asked to place an order. it is CT after all...
 
As much as CT is a Chain. Each store is owned by an individual. This individual can make the choice what they want in their store. That is why some Alberta CT have gun counters and some don't.
Wal Mart is a corporation owned by the corporation and they have made a descision not to sell pistol ammo at their stores. This is in Bowling for Columbine.
If Ontario CT's don't sell pistol ammo it might be an owner who owns alot of stores or a CFO thing.
If you can't get them to order it then your pretty much stuck with the local gun store.
 
As much as CT is a Chain. Each store is owned by an individual. This individual can make the choice what they want in their store. That is why some Alberta CT have gun counters and some don't.
Wal Mart is a corporation owned by the corporation and they have made a descision not to sell pistol ammo at their stores. This is in Bowling for Columbine.
If Ontario CT's don't sell pistol ammo it might be an owner who owns alot of stores or a CFO thing.
If you can't get them to order it then your pretty much stuck with the local gun store.

That was K-mart.
 
Sorry about that. But wal-mart has also self imposed pistol ammo sales in stores that are near schools and what not.
 
No contradiction at all.I would rather pay an extra 10% at a local dealer which works out to at most $4 per pound,and not have to pay shipping,than pay 10% less online and have to pay an extra $10 per pound for shipping only two pounds of powder.The price of the powder might be higher locally,but the cost of shipping powder from the online dealer much more than offsets the cost difference.The same is true for buying loaded ammunition online,the cost of shipping is very high for small amounts.And if I drive 400km each way to buy either powder or ammunition,the cost of fuel,makes the overall cost ridiculously high.As such,I buy large orders of supplies,usually in excess of $1000 when I am in the city,to avoid having to make special trips for supplies.As far as primers are concerned, I normally buy 5000 or more primers at a time,regardless of where I buy them,so I don't run out and have to scrounge around to try and find some,or change a load because I can't find what I normally use.Yet some people insist on buying 100 or 200 at a time,then complain when they run out and can't find anyone with stock.
The prices may have been a little higher buying locally,but in the end it was cheaper than paying a little less for the product,and having to pay for shipping.

there is a clear contradiction in your post. anybody can plainly see it. you are willing to pay extra to not have to drive 400kms, but at the same time you are not willing to pay extra to buy online (which would enable you to not drive 400kms). cut and dry.

as for your numbers, i looked up shipping costs last night. DSL's site was offline, but canada post was not. according to canada post, it would cost you $14 to ship an 8lb container of powder from central alberta to fort mac.

i dont think you can drive 400kms on $14...
 
there is a clear contradiction in your post. anybody can plainly see it. you are willing to pay extra to not have to drive 400kms, but at the same time you are not willing to pay extra to buy online (which would enable you to not drive 400kms). cut and dry.

as for your numbers, i looked up shipping costs last night. DSL's site was offline, but canada post was not. according to canada post, it would cost you $14 to ship an 8lb container of powder from central alberta to fort mac.

i dont think you can drive 400kms on $14...

CP will not ship hazmat. You need to use a shipping company like CanPar or the like. It gets very expensive to ship ammo/powder, far more than $14 I can promise you that.
 
but canada post was not. according to canada post, it would cost you $14 to ship an 8lb container of powder from central alberta to fort mac.

Why don't you call up the post office and ask them if they will ship Smokeless powder through Canada Post.Or just read the link below.Then simply accept that fact that Canada post does not accept Smokeless powder,loaded ammunition,or even replica ammunition.

http://www.canadapost.ca/tools/PG/manual/pgnonmail-e.asp

Before making assumptions as to the cost,you might want to learn what is involved with shipping dangerous goods,and then inquire as to the cost of shipping Class 1-explosives.

there is a clear contradiction in your post. anybody can plainly see it. you are willing to pay extra to not have to drive 400kms, but at the same time you are not willing to pay extra to buy online (which would enable you to not drive 400kms). cut and dry.

It is cut and dry.I am willing to pay a higher posted price for a product,if I don't have to pay for shipping which when added to the price results in a higher total price.

As an example,I would gladly pay $80 to buy 2 pounds of powder locally,rather than pay $70 for that powder online,and then have to pay $15 shipping plus a $27 dangerous goods surcharge(DHL) to ship that powder to me.

Which would you rather pay, $80 spent locally,or $112 to buy the powder online and have it shipped?

Rather than pay the extra $32 to buy 2 pounds of powder online,I wait until I am in the city,or have a friend pick up my order,and buy in volume,so I don't need another order for quite some time.
 
CTC does not stock ammunition in their warehouses, it is a third party vendor or supplier.
If you need a product number for instance 17hmr, take an empty box with the bar code in tact to the store, they will scan it and let you know if it is available through there order system.
The main CTC ammo suppliers will be Remington and Winchester, 17hmr in Hornady will not show a product number, it is not one of there suppliers.
The demand for pistol ammo at a CTC store would be limited, they will never stock it for all the politicaly correct reasons you can think of for a large chain,small market, bad press and to much hassle in urban communities.
 
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