There are plans for an autofeeder in the works. It will attach to the existing unit. Release date is mid next year. The units that are in stock at Xtreme Gun will come with the pilots included, but the new shipment will not have the pilots included. The USA and NZ manufacture do not include pilots as of right now, they used to. The cost of our falling dollar just makes everything go up and up.
Amp annealer review "picture heavy"
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AMP NZ is the manufacture, Xtreme Gun is the Canadian distributor. The manufacture no longer gives the distributor 3 pilots with the unit. So when all the units that the distributor has in stock are gone they will no longer come with the three pilots, they will have to be purchased separately for $29 each.
Thx again for the review. I've been thinking about it for a while now and your review helped me make up my mind...So I just ordered one....I mentioned that I read your review on CGN...maybe your in line for a discount on your next order...thx to you they just sold two units...
Chargerguy
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Wow, they had 9 units in stock when I placed my order. Down to 5 now.
Wow, great looking unit, Congrats.
The price is a little (a lot! LOL) out of my league. I built my own induction heater setup with approx $100 in ebay parts a while ago. Works for what I need it for.
Nowhere near as nice looking as yours. Mine is a spiderweb of wires, LOLOL
Congratulations again!
Regards
The price is a little (a lot! LOL) out of my league. I built my own induction heater setup with approx $100 in ebay parts a while ago. Works for what I need it for.
Nowhere near as nice looking as yours. Mine is a spiderweb of wires, LOLOL
Congratulations again!
Regards
Nice toy, but for that kind of money it had best have some upgrades, and soon. Like a menu driven interface for one! Having to look up data just doesn't cut it any more. If the data can be looked up on the internet or in a printed table, it can be looked up in a built in database and automagically inserted into the proper program variables. Adding mechanical items such as insertion and removal run by a mechanical lever might be nice if it can be done cheaply. Adding one that runs semi or fully automatically would cost a lot more - some might pay for that convenience, others like myself don't want it because I don't think it is necessary for the amount of use it will see and I can think of lots of other places I'd rather spend.
I do like the concept and current mechanics of the unit though but it is just way overpriced for what is currently available in my opinion.
I do like the concept and current mechanics of the unit though but it is just way overpriced for what is currently available in my opinion.
I actually prefer the way it is compared to what you are suggesting I think that would over complicate it. It would probably have to do an update everytime before you could use it which would piss me off. Sometimes simple and easy for everyone to use is better.
Supply and demand dictates price if it was way over priced people wouldn't be buying them. The price is high yes but everything for firearms in general is you have to pay to play.
Chargerguy
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I agree with you...thats why I ordered one.....I got pilots #2,45,62....I will let you know how they work out....I'm waiting on 7-30 Waters dies from the States so it may be a while. Let me know your results on any of the calibers that you anneal
It already has a menu driven interface, just one that is so rudimentary that it is painful. Reminds me of something out of the dim dark ages of the beginning of computing. As to updating all the time - why. I have a magnetospeed which has a decent menu driven interface and I have had it for a couple of years now. I haven't checked recently but I personally don't perceive a need to change anything on it, it just works great. It certainly doesn't ask me to connect it to the internet to see if there is an update.
From my perspective, it is an exotic toy. For $1500 I can buy around 2000 Lapua brass which I can reload at least 10 times without re-annealing (so far anyway). That would give me around 20,000 rounds. I know I am getting close to the end of life expectancy at 10 but how many more cycles will annealing actually give me? I don't care about any mechanical additions but from my perspective, the price is far too high for a machine that one has to look up a number in a table and fill in the blanks. I should be able to power up, select Run > .308 > Lapua > Go and it is off to the races. This info should also be stored so that the next time I turn it on, it comes up with the last run, which in this case would be .308 Lapua, and all I have to do is hit Go. Absolutely dead simple stuff.
One thing about it. I'm glad people are buying them now so that they can get to work on making the next version better.
The Amp Annealer is the closest thing to "Annealing for Dummies". A few pushes of a button doesn't get much simpler. An interface, while I can see your point, would add a few extra things to the mix. Set-up, interfacing with a device, possibly a wifi connection, etc.. Why make things more complicated than they are?
But....to each their own.
But....to each their own.
What's wrong with the first one?
Ok, I just want to follow your train of thought. Firstly, you want "upgrades" such as a menu driven interface. You don't want to look up data (and maybe press the button more than once). A magic database that will input any and all variables for you. (Sounds like more mouse clicks than button pushes.)
Then you don't want the complication of a fully automatic (turn table perhaps?) unit. But, you do like the idea of adding some sort of automatic lever system to put the cases in and out of the machine.
Then, you say that all of these "upgrades" might not be worth it because of the use of the machine might be limited. Oh, and I almost forgot, it's too expensive for you.
Have I missed anything?
Well, for those of us who actually have one. And have used it. Here's my thoughts. It's the easiest thing I've ever used. After I sent off my samples and got my results, I have one setting for each of the two (yes, only 2) cases that I anneal (soon to be 3). (I guess the "upgrade" thingy above is a moot point.)
It is really fast. Really no need to "speed it up" with magical mechanical devices like levers and auto feeders to bugger things up.
There's no propellant needed to heat things up. As I am also a radio enthusiast, I can appreciate the power of electricity to warm things. This thing is just like one of my tube amplifiers. Sweet!!
Now, I know it's pricey. Almost $1500 is not for everyone. But neither are $10k rifle builds. But this thing has got to be the coolest (sorry for the unintended pun) thing I have purchased yet for this hobby. ymmv
Ok, I just want to follow your train of thought. Firstly, you want "upgrades" such as a menu driven interface. You don't want to look up data (and maybe press the button more than once). A magic database that will input any and all variables for you. (Sounds like more mouse clicks than button pushes.)
Then you don't want the complication of a fully automatic (turn table perhaps?) unit. But, you do like the idea of adding some sort of automatic lever system to put the cases in and out of the machine.
Then, you say that all of these "upgrades" might not be worth it because of the use of the machine might be limited. Oh, and I almost forgot, it's too expensive for you.
Have I missed anything?
Well, for those of us who actually have one. And have used it. Here's my thoughts. It's the easiest thing I've ever used. After I sent off my samples and got my results, I have one setting for each of the two (yes, only 2) cases that I anneal (soon to be 3). (I guess the "upgrade" thingy above is a moot point.)
It is really fast. Really no need to "speed it up" with magical mechanical devices like levers and auto feeders to bugger things up.
There's no propellant needed to heat things up. As I am also a radio enthusiast, I can appreciate the power of electricity to warm things. This thing is just like one of my tube amplifiers. Sweet!!
Now, I know it's pricey. Almost $1500 is not for everyone. But neither are $10k rifle builds. But this thing has got to be the coolest (sorry for the unintended pun) thing I have purchased yet for this hobby. ymmv
Wow Andy that's a nice reply I couldn't agree more.
