An interesting find...help I.D. it?**NOW PICS IN POST #5**

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Howdy folks.

As much as I love my guns, I'm out of my element with this one...A buddy showed me the remnants of [what I guess] a muzzle loading shotgun. No lock, or stock. I know nothing about these (might not even be correct about it being a shotty)

Looks to be about 16G, marked with: AH, 18, London, and some proofmarks. Has a place for a ramrod, brass bead front sight. Appears to be a broken tang. Will try to get some pictures of it today.

Is it a muzzle loading shotty? What else can I tell him about his "treasure"?
 
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If it has AH on it and it says London, I would be leaning toward AH Greener. The Greener part of the name should be there unless it is worn off or the OP didn't see the full name. Proof marks will tell part of the story.
 
Finally...some pictures!

Here is the "treasure" in all it's glory...most of the wasp nest(mud) was removed from the "hole" (touchhole?...improve my vocabulary).

Cannot see "Greener" on it, won't suggest it was never there though. You can see one of the two loops [that I think retained a push rod] broken off. Also tang pieces broken...

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I don't really question it's value (obviously millions)...looking for basic "trivia" about it...

***Sorry if the pics are blurry...I'm at a computer with a very bad monitor everything looks blurry!***
 
It looks to be the barrel of a percussion (muzzle loading) fowler. Those look like Birmingham proofs and the maker could be almost anyone british. Value in its present form is maybe $100 as long as the bore is not too pitted. Guage you would have to measure the muzzle inside diameter --- 20 guage is .62 and 16 guage is .66, 12 guage is .73 with intermediate guages possible. The AH is probably the barrel maker and the 18 could be the guage or could be an assembly number to match up with the other parts (less likely as most assembly numbers are under 10 and usually roman numerals cut in with a chisel)

cheers mooncoon
 
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