An interesting idea for my Gewehr 98 sporter *Project Update Dec. 20th 2011*

Good pictures too! Those are the same mounts I have so those pictures will be perfect reference shots for the gun smith.

As for the bent down bolt, it seems there were differences in how the bolts were bent down. Not every sniper seems to have had the recess added in to the stock. The chapter on sniper rifles that Storz provides in his book has very nice pictures of Prussian and Bavarian sniper rifles and it is interesting to see the differences between them.

As for this project, I am still proceeding ahead with it. That is why I chose this rifle and this stock to work with a year ago. The rifle is one of my restored examples and the stock has already been re-finished by someone in the past.

In any event, we will see what the gun smith says. If they can add the recess and bend the bolt handle properly then we will try it this way otherwise I will have the bolt bent down Bavarian style (like in the reference photo above). The second option will save the stock as well.

Trying to find an original sniper would be prohibitive cost wise. I don't think I have seen a single example in Canada. I know of two in the U.S. and one in France.

RRco, you mentioned a fill for the receiver dove tail, would you have any recommendations ?
 
Be sure you time your threads eh, an example I looked at had the slots accross the bore line.

I was looking at those french repops as the claws are quite worn and do not lock tightly.

As to the front ring, "the German sniper" shows that the positioning of the front base varied by up to 1/4"

Why don't you reinstall the previous base thing and file it to the receiver ring contour, then install the front base so that the attachment screws have the most support possible (on either side of the dovetail preferably.
 
I was really hoping the forward claw would fit but it is too small for the current mounts. If you see the small mounts in the rifle and carbine 98 book, the rings would more likely fit those.

Oh well, I will work with what i have and make it as close to the originals as possible.
 
Now that is really cool! I'm not sure what type of mounts would fit that scope but I am guessing they would be ones like the type I picked up from the gentleman in France.

Nice crisp and clear markings too with a power just 1/4 off from mine. Not great for distance shooting but perfect for space between trenches with 100-200m apart or even less.

The adjustment dial is in the Prussian fashion with 100m adjustable increments as well.

I had a peak around the site and they have that scope listed under the WW2 German section. I am guessing it may have seen Weimar and possible Third Reich service though I suspect it was hidden until the mid to late 1930s given the Treaty of Versailles and Allied inspectors in almost every nick and cranny during the 1920s. The re-numbering is nice as well, makes you wonder if that scope saw and action ?

Collector's Guild has some nice stuff as well, alot of which you do not see all that often (or at all for that matter). Did you see the LMG Parrabelum from a German a/c ? The Albatros image cut out is extremely interesting as you know that was cut off the tail of a downed German a/c.

Now, I wish I could win the lottery because I would clean them out of the Imperial German stuff :D.
 
Collector's Guild often has 'not seen elsewhere in Canada' militaria to buy.

But as to their prices... that scope seems reasonable for an item at Collector's Guild, though I didn't read the description carefully.

Is it functional? Clear glass?
 
They don't say, I would inquire and ask for more pictures before I made a commitment to purchase.

When I bought my scope, the seller took pictures of everything including the sight picture.
 
NABS if i had millions i would of bought everything and kept them safe. i mean everything and just put em for show in a museum. i feel real bad that these items are just scattered all over the place and sometimes people mistreat them:(.
 
I have thought of making an afterwards sniper out of a GEW98. Scopes are reasonably priced and I see lots for sale around the world. Their bases or mounts I know little about.
I will look for a book on these rifles, as I understand there are WWI scopes and after 1918 scopes out there, that appear similar.
 
If I win the lottery, deagle, one of my goals is to collect as much WW1 militaria as I can, be it British, American, French, or German, and build a reasonably sized museum to display it properly with respect and care.

Speaking of museums and venturing somewhat off topic, I recently heard a rumour that the Hamilton warplane heritage museum is at risk of being torn down to build an ice hockey rink ? I seriously hope this is mere speculation as the amount of historical artifacts in that place is simply amazing. Not to forget, they have one of two flying Lancasters in the world along with some very nice WW1 aircraft :D.

QM, if you do happen to find a book that is dedicated to or has a large section detailing the scopes used in WW1 by the Germans, I would be very much interested in hearing about it. The best single source of reference I have found to date is in Storz's book "Rifle and Carbine 98". He has some clear and close up photos of various scope and mount setups.

He is soon to release a book based on the Commission rifle which I am very much looking forward to.
 
That's the Toronto Museum of Areospace near Downsview. It has been in the media a lot lately. Even Dale Goldhawk of Fightback fame, talks daily about how the Feds declare this place of Historical significance then later on decide it's not worth keeping.
Where is the 7/8 ths Avro Arrow going to go? Plus much much more?
As for the WWI scoped 98's, if I find the book I will let you know.
 
Say Nabs do you read German? If you do you might want to look across the pond at a book seller in Germany. I can give a link to one I've bought from. Not cheap due to postage and the Euro but sometimes on sale and often you find books you will never see here.
 
Admittedly I cannot fluently speak or read German but I can get by in some cases. I am presently learning German on the side so I can pick up some of the old manuals that pop up for sale and are in the old German style of writing.

I'll look at any reference source I can get for these rifles as published information is quite scarce.

Today, I'll be taking some pictures of my setup and gathering a few reference pictures to send to Epps to get their assessment.
 
OK here is the web address: http://www.dwj-medien.de/ I've purchased from them and its surprisingly quick to get books from Europe but the cost is steep unless on sale. FYI the page should translate from German to English but unless you choose the English books on the left of the page, these books are in German.
 
yea Nabs ive already finished restoring 2 m1 garands to its original matching conditions how about you have you gotten that babe done or what?
 
I just have to visit Ellwood epps to get the scope mounted and it is finished. I hope to be able to do this when I am able to return home from flight training in a month or so but it is difficult to plan with a changing schedule.

Rest assured, I will post the finishing photos here along with a range report for everyone to enjoy.

I will ask Epps to bend the already bubba with bolt handle down according to reference photos I have. I do not think I will ask them to add a recess in the stock, instead bending the bolt handle down similar to a Geha shotgun which is very similar to how the Bavarians did it for their Gewehr 98 snipers. Considering it is a Bavarian unit marked stock and the scope probably saw service with Bavarian troops, I felt that that decision would be best for the bolt handle and the rifle in the long run.

To wet your appetite, here is a picture of the Gewehr 98 along with her scope to show what she would look like once she is finished.

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