And we're back getting things banned

I searched my YouTube history, searched YouTube and also the Internet. - I couldn’t find it.

It was little hokey with some very definite Freeman of the land underpinnings. If you locate it, take much of it with a grain of salt.

It proposes that Canada isn’t a real country because of some technical issues. It also makes the claim that a Charter can’t exist because it’s a document used for listing travelers on a vessel 🙄.

Entertaining, but pointless in the end because nobody is going to say “okay guys, Canada doesn’t exist.”

Far more likely for us to be absorbed into the U.S as Provinces leave confederation, separation - heck! Even civil war is a more possible outcome.
The 1982 charter act was tabled because the government at the time was trying to do things that the British government didn’t want to allow. They passed a law that would allow Canada to be an independent nation from the uk (most Canadians at the time believed they had been for 90 years so that was an ignored shock on its own), one of the requirements for soviernty was that Canada drop French as an official language and you can guess how Quebec responded to it. The uk still subtly claims ownership over Canada and legally they have a strong claim. All these f[_]ckers running around with the Canada is not for sale hats, the king of England has every legal right to sell the territory of Canada to whoever he wants. It doesn’t matter that we think that isn’t how it ought to be, that is the way it is. So prepare yourself for it
 
He used to be a realist perhaps. In the last year he seems to have gone well beyond that though.

Use this as a door kicking expedition? Thats a perfect example of the fear mongering I'm talking about.
With all that's happened in the last 6 years and people still dog whistle about "fear mongering" and expect to be taken seriously? Amazing.
As for "unprecedented" what about what's been going on recently isn't? This isn't the 80, 90's, or 00's anymore, the world has changed. Talk about a boiled frog.
 
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With all that's happened in the last 6 years and people still dog whistle about "fear mongering" and expect to be taken seriously? Amazing.
First thanks for allowing me to join your important voices. Second I am just back from a friend's funeral...4 years battling cancer. Now he can hunt with any caliber that doesn't irritate the Angels choir practice but after that he is Free. While free of pain is biggest point...I know after 20 years of Medic EMS self inflicted/suicide by gun is rare. I support my family of gun enthusiasts and wonder if you all share my view that the legislature should triple down on illegal hand guns and full auto? But Long guns? C'mon Canada.. think! The US will never see a invasion ( less by us.. keep dissing and crap) 🇨🇦🙏🥺 because China knows there's 400 million weapons in the civilian population hands! And... most are hunters even subsistence hunters! Or a Sun flare...ones over due and with no heat refrigeration, light communication....3 days will see death of millions here and every day magnified X 2. Many other environmental catastrophic events could plunge us back to ice age tools.
Anyway God Bless and thanks again.
Rocky
 
They could try.

The crypto was manufactured to comply with C21 tho. It also didn’t require an FRT as it was domestically manufactured and ticked all the boxes for a non restricted rifle.

They’d need to have some reasonable grounds besides “we don’t like it.”
That's funny Jeff,

I think you and I as Police Officers have already covered how corrupt the RCMP are.

They are nothing but thugs who protect dirty, slimy, and corrupt politicians' who should be in jail.

Reasonable grounds for the dirty police means: We think it's reasonable to take away all the guns from Canadians. They are as afraid as the tyrannical politicians they serve.......:(
 
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With all that's happened in the last 6 years and people still dog whistle about "fear mongering" and expect to be taken seriously? Amazing.
As for "unprecedented" what about what's been going on recently isn't? This isn't the 80, 90's, or 00's anymore, the world has changed. Talk about a boiled frog.

How many doors have been kicked in to take any of these guns?

There is zero evidence to suggest the crypto will be the straw that breaks the camels back and lead to doors kicked in. It's not the 80s, yet y'all talk like you're living in an 80s action movie.
 
I'm hopeful that a new government will change things but the odd time PP mentions guns it's to reassure the electorate that "hunting rifles" will not be banned. Maybe politically he doesn't want to say he's repealing everything. Isn't it ironic that the arrival of the Trump rescues the liberals from annihilation at the polls. What a world.
This is a tragic disgrace.
 
I'm hopeful that a new government will change things but the odd time PP mentions guns it's to reassure the electorate that "hunting rifles" will not be banned. Maybe politically he doesn't want to say he's repealing everything. Isn't it ironic that the arrival of the Trump rescues the liberals from annihilation at the polls. What a world.
I think what many are doing is missing the point. What I think Pierre is doing is painting the picture that in his opinion they all can be.


The legal case for JT banning guns is because in the opinion of the GIC they arent hunting rifles. I think he is literally directly approaching it, and implying (mostly) all firearms can be hunting firearms.

Pierre and the party have stated many times they will repeal all JT era bans and C21. The fact is that they have the power to repeal/revoke OICs as soon as they convene cabinet. Pierre doesnt even have to issue the OIC, JT did it for his "legacy". In 2013-2014 Stephen Blaney issued one to re-prescribe the CZ858's and Swiss arms rifles back to NR, it wasnt Harper. The other metric i like to rely on is the fact that the provinces have jurisdiction over what constitutes hunting legal firearms. This is another step towards more provincial autonomy

If you look at polling data, it appears that people 40+ and women in general are supporting the LPC and majority of their campaign is based on DT-mind virus, spite, tarrifs and then CPC policy. Those who's property and investments went up dont see the world the way most of us see it, and vote for more of the same.
 
Bit off topic... does anyone here believe what the media is saying about the polling right now?

I think because the liberals control the media and social media itself is typically left wing. The liberals are making it up to give the illusion the Liberals are in the lead.

The fact that apparently everyone forgot about the past 8 years doesn't make sense...
The polls have to be manipulated. Go watch a Pierre rally and compare it to a Carney rally, who can't even fill a small pub. The enthusiasm and energy is drastically different. Its a psychological technique used to discourage conservative voters and encourage "on the fence" voters.

Do you recall the name of it? I’d be interested in watching it too
I believe this is the referred doco.
I'm hopeful that a new government will change things but the odd time PP mentions guns it's to reassure the electorate that "hunting rifles" will not be banned. Maybe politically he doesn't want to say he's repealing everything. Isn't it ironic that the arrival of the Trump rescues the liberals from annihilation at the polls. What a world.
He does continue to repeat the "grandpa Joe" and "hunting rifle" phrases, but he has said multiple times that the OICs, c-21 and all recent bans/freezes will be repealed. I have been told by 2 Conservative MPs here in the Kootenay's that first order of business will be of repealing said bans and the MP running for my recently changed electoral district told me personally he is a staunch advocate for Canadian gun rights and has "owned" black rifles and hand guns. Legally of course.
 
Good to know. Our local candidate, who might get turfed from the campaign unfortunately, says the same. All we need to do is get PP elected. Huge PP rally in Penticton yesterday which has been an NDP stronghold for years.
 
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.”

C.S. Lewis
 
That's funny Jeff,

I think you and I as Police Officers have already covered how corrupt the RCMP are.

They are nothing but thugs who protect dirty, slimy, and corrupt politicians' who should be in jail.

Reasonable grounds for the dirty police means: We think it's reasonable to take away all the guns from Canadians. They are as afraid as the tyrannical politicians they serve.......:(
It’s unfortunate that you as a police officer have to point this out. When i was driving long haul i had dealings with the rcmp out west a number of years back and i can honestly say the rcmp officers i dealt with were very professional and polite. I remember the time i hit a moose coming out of golden british columbia in 2010 the officer said i was thinking you were high because this is mountain goat area not moose he asked where is the moose i dont see it i walked him to back of my truck and there it was a big cow moose jammed between back of my fuel tank and first set of dribe wheels. He was like well #### me i said that #### all there was like 20 of them i had no place to go he looked at me funny and said ill be rite back and took off up the road and comes back about 10 minutes later and he is like damn your rite. I said maybe there coming back from vancouver olympic or something i remember he was a giant of a man he had to have special grips for his pistol his hands were so big definatly a credit to a police officer
 
Bit off topic... does anyone here believe what the media is saying about the polling right now?

I think because the liberals control the media and social media itself is typically left wing. The liberals are making it up to give the illusion the Liberals are in the lead.

The fact that apparently everyone forgot about the past 8 years doesn't make sense...
100%. Trump as the face of "conservatism" and actions of an autocratic facist down there, will have cost the cons, the election, or at the very least cost em their majority. Pp's limp stance on trumps rhetoric, along with the fact his big drive was "axe the tax" for most of the past year is what will be marked as the death knell for that campaign. Don't kid yourself. People were pissed with Trudeau and with him gone, are willing to see what someone else can do. He was picked by the last conservative govt and head hunted by the Brits to help them navigate Brexit. He has an impressive resume and has been making moves. Beyond polling and online chatter, I hear more than a few people chattering about him in positive ways and most of them, I never would have expected.

This is going to be an interesting election to say the very least.
 
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It’s unfortunate that you as a police officer have to point this out. When i was driving long haul i had dealings with the rcmp out west a number of years back and i can honestly say the rcmp officers i dealt with were very professional and polite. I remember the time i hit a moose coming out of golden british columbia in 2010 the officer said i was thinking you were high because this is mountain goat area not moose he asked where is the moose i dont see it i walked him to back of my truck and there it was a big cow moose jammed between back of my fuel tank and first set of dribe wheels. He was like well #### me i said that #### all there was like 20 of them i had no place to go he looked at me funny and said ill be rite back and took off up the road and comes back about 10 minutes later and he is like damn your rite. I said maybe there coming back from vancouver olympic or something i remember he was a giant of a man he had to have special grips for his pistol his hands were so big definatly a credit to a police officer
Your right Jimbo45, and I am now retired. But one does not have to be a current or retired police officer of any kind to see the current corruption that has plagued most law enforcement members and agencies.

I worked in Prince George from 1987 to 1995. In PG at that time, people mostly partied, f@cked, or got into fights. It was like the wild west. In saying that, I met a lot of great people, and a lot of good officers. I had a reputation of being firm, yet very fair.

Your story from above reminded me of the time I spent on duty in a crazy busy city.

My point is not all cops are corrupt or bad, unfortunately these days, there are a lot of bad ones. This has to do with bottom barrel recruiting as no one wants to be a cop these days. Or at least, very few want to be. RCMP no longer requires a physical fitness test, and if you are stupid, but have a pulse, you're hired!......:(

When the police protect corrupt and lying politicians, persecute Christians while harassing and arresting church pastors, run down small disabled indigenous female elders with horses, kick in doors of lawful firearms owners (High River), shoot unarmed suspects, all while protecting dirty politicians, what does one think? Do we say, "oh well they are just following orders"? No bloody way! This is what Hitlers officers said. It was wrong then, it's wrong now. Covid was a scam, Trudeau enacting the Emergencies Act was illegal, but the corrupt cops were there to enforce any and all unlawful rules. Freedoms were taking away as if we were in a Communist Country!....:(

Oh wait, we already are in a Communist Country, sorry, I forgot we are in Chinada!

I would not trust a cop now as far as I could throw him/her/it!.......:(

Others can make their own judgement or decisions.

Are there still some good ones left? Yes of course there is, but good luck finding them in these trying times.
 
Your right Jimbo45, and I am now retired. But one does not have to be a current or retired police officer of any kind to see the current corruption that has plagued most law enforcement members and agencies.

I worked in Prince George from 1987 to 1995. In PG at that time, people mostly partied, f@cked, or got into fights. It was like the wild west. In saying that, I met a lot of great people, and a lot of good officers. I had a reputation of being firm, yet very fair.

Your story from above reminded me of the time I spent on duty in a crazy busy city.

My point is not all cops are corrupt or bad, unfortunately these days, there are a lot of bad ones. This has to do with bottom barrel recruiting as no one wants to be a cop these days. Or at least, very few want to be. RCMP no longer requires a physical fitness test, and if you are stupid, but have a pulse, you're hired!......:(

When the police protect corrupt and lying politicians, persecute Christians while harassing and arresting church pastors, run down small disabled indigenous female elders with horses, kick in doors of lawful firearms owners (High River), shoot unarmed suspects, all while protecting dirty politicians, what does one think? Do we say, "oh well they are just following orders"? No bloody way! This is what Hitlers officers said. It was wrong then, it's wrong now. Covid was a scam, Trudeau enacting the Emergencies Act was illegal, but the corrupt cops were there to enforce any and all unlawful rules. Freedoms were taking away as if we were in a Communist Country!....:(

Oh wait, we already are in a Communist Country, sorry, I forgot we are in Chinada!

I would not trust a cop now as far as I could throw him/her/it!.......:(

Others can make their own judgement or decisions.

Are there still some good ones left? Yes of course there is, but good luck finding them in these trying times.
Sadly I have to agree with everything you just said the Ontario provincial police are way out of line they dont know how to deal with me as i stand firm with them as i know my rights they drug me through the system a few times over bogus charges even took one case to the supreme court and handed there asses to them and the judges also suffered repercussions over his foolishness. I miss the days when buying a restricted we went to local opp detachment got the paper work went got the gun went back and the officer verified everything. I dont know how many times i went home after a verification only to have one of the officers show up in a cruiser tellingbme jimbo go grab that pistol were going to try it out cops were cool then since that system stopped it feels like a wedge jas been driven between citizens and police
 
and yet,people have totally stopped giving a sh1t,i see these things still bought and sold,same goes for Mini's,a lot of guys who know each other just kept going,LOL..so much for these bans doing anything for public safety,there will tons of prohibs heading for the underground market,watch what happens in the next 5 years now,and ALL OF IT CAN BE BLAMED ON THE LIBTARDS.
 
Yup, bang on. I live on Vancouver Island and it looks like the NDP are going to get wiped out by their base flocking to the liberals. Same thing happening to the Bloc in PQ it sounds like.
Looks like they'll be struggling to keep more than 3 seats, which wouldn't even make them an official federal party anymore.
 
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