another one Outfitter fined for unauthorized hunting

we got no answer on that one?
but international sheep brotherhood is another planet ....

I think this is the one in question (Bold is mine):

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Fined guide ‘truly embarrassed and ashamed’

An experienced hunting guide from Alberta who spent last summer working for a Yukon outfitter has been fined $10,000 for offences under the territory’s Wildlife Act.

By Rhiannon Russell on August 1, 2014

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An experienced hunting guide from Alberta who spent last summer working for a Yukon outfitter has been fined $10,000 for offences under the territory’s Wildlife Act.

Patrick Garrett, 39, pleaded guilty in territorial court this morning to the illegal hunting of a grizzly and a caribou and failing to prevent a contravention of the act.

Represented by defence lawyer Mike Reynolds, Garrett did not appear in court.

That’s because he was working at a remote site northern B.C. in order to pay off the fine, which was a joint submission by Reynolds and Crown prosecutor Lee Kirkpatrick.

“In 26 years, I’ve never made a mistake like this, and I’m truly embarrassed and ashamed it happened,” Garrett wrote in a statement Reynolds read aloud before Judge Murray Hinds.

Garrett was working last summer as a guide in the Tombstone Territorial Park area for one of the territory’s outfitters.

He’s an experienced hunter and guide and runs his own guiding business in Alberta.

Kirkpatrick said Garrett participated in the pre-season guiding talk which discusses Yukon rules and laws. One is that an outfitter can only have one person hunting with him or her at a time.

On Aug. 27, Garrett headed north on the Dempster Highway with two men. The plan was one of the men was just along for the ride, but he did a bring a gun.

(Reynolds said his client recalls the outfitter instructing him to bring both men out, while, according to the outfitter’s version of events, recounted by Kirkpatrick, they told Garrett if the second man brought a gun, he could not use it.)

The group spotted a grizzly bear off the highway, and the man assigned to Garrett shot and killed it.

Kirkpatrick said grizzly hunting is prohibited in an eight-kilometre corridor along the Dempster. This bear was less than one kilometre from the highway.

On the way back to camp, the men spotted a caribou. The second man shot at it, but missed.

Reynolds said that when Garrett arrived back at camp, the outfitter confronted him and told him he shouldn’t have had two men out with him, and that the grizzly killing was illegal because of its proximity to the highway.

He had “feelings of disbelief and a feeling like he was going to be sick to his stomach,” Reynolds said.

Garrett does not recall the pre-season guiding talk.

In the past, he had had poor, “almost ambiguous” communication with the outfitter.

“But as a guide, Mr. Garrett knows the ultimate blame and responsibility lies with him,” Reynolds said.

Hinds accepted the joint submission.

Garrett must pay $5,000 for the illegal grizzly hunting, $4,000 for the illegal caribou hunting and $1,000 for failing to prevent a contravention of the Wildlife Act.

He is prohibited from guiding in the Yukon for seven years, and must complete the Hunter Education and Ethics Development program before obtaining a guiding licence in the territory.

His fine will serve as a contribution to the Yukon Fish and Game Association.

As for the man who had been assigned to Garrett on that hunt, Kirkpatrick said the outfitter has offered him a return hunt, because he paid about $20,000 for the trip and his grizzly trophy was forfeited to the Yukon government.
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I'm not sure why the sheep would not be forfeited to the Territory as the circumstances reported appear similar if not identical?
 
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I think this is the one in question (Bold is mine):

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Fined guide ‘truly embarrassed and ashamed’

An experienced hunting guide from Alberta who spent last summer working for a Yukon outfitter has been fined $10,000 for offences under the territory’s Wildlife Act.

By Rhiannon Russell on August 1, 2014

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An experienced hunting guide from Alberta who spent last summer working for a Yukon outfitter has been fined $10,000 for offences under the territory’s Wildlife Act.

Patrick Garrett, 39, pleaded guilty in territorial court this morning to the illegal hunting of a grizzly and a caribou and failing to prevent a contravention of the act.

Represented by defence lawyer Mike Reynolds, Garrett did not appear in court.

That’s because he was working at a remote site northern B.C. in order to pay off the fine, which was a joint submission by Reynolds and Crown prosecutor Lee Kirkpatrick.

“In 26 years, I’ve never made a mistake like this, and I’m truly embarrassed and ashamed it happened,” Garrett wrote in a statement Reynolds read aloud before Judge Murray Hinds.

Garrett was working last summer as a guide in the Tombstone Territorial Park area for one of the territory’s outfitters.

He’s an experienced hunter and guide and runs his own guiding business in Alberta.

Kirkpatrick said Garrett participated in the pre-season guiding talk which discusses Yukon rules and laws. One is that an outfitter can only have one person hunting with him or her at a time.

On Aug. 27, Garrett headed north on the Dempster Highway with two men. The plan was one of the men was just along for the ride, but he did a bring a gun.

(Reynolds said his client recalls the outfitter instructing him to bring both men out, while, according to the outfitter’s version of events, recounted by Kirkpatrick, they told Garrett if the second man brought a gun, he could not use it.)

The group spotted a grizzly bear off the highway, and the man assigned to Garrett shot and killed it.

Kirkpatrick said grizzly hunting is prohibited in an eight-kilometre corridor along the Dempster. This bear was less than one kilometre from the highway.

On the way back to camp, the men spotted a caribou. The second man shot at it, but missed.

Reynolds said that when Garrett arrived back at camp, the outfitter confronted him and told him he shouldn’t have had two men out with him, and that the grizzly killing was illegal because of its proximity to the highway.

He had “feelings of disbelief and a feeling like he was going to be sick to his stomach,” Reynolds said.

Garrett does not recall the pre-season guiding talk.

In the past, he had had poor, “almost ambiguous” communication with the outfitter.

“But as a guide, Mr. Garrett knows the ultimate blame and responsibility lies with him,” Reynolds said.

Hinds accepted the joint submission.

Garrett must pay $5,000 for the illegal grizzly hunting, $4,000 for the illegal caribou hunting and $1,000 for failing to prevent a contravention of the Wildlife Act.

He is prohibited from guiding in the Yukon for seven years, and must complete the Hunter Education and Ethics Development program before obtaining a guiding licence in the territory.

His fine will serve as a contribution to the Yukon Fish and Game Association.

As for the man who had been assigned to Garrett on that hunt, Kirkpatrick said the outfitter has offered him a return hunt, because he paid about $20,000 for the trip and his grizzly trophy was forfeited to the Yukon government.
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I'm not sure why the sheep would not be forfeited to the Territory as the circumstances reported appear similar if not identical?

i was talking about the sheep and we didnt the answers why not siezed bad bolding lol ...
 
i was talking about the sheep and we didnt the answers why not siezed bad bolding lol ...

Sorry, I was responding to Patty59's post. The Grizzly bear killed by the client was forfeited to the Territory when the guide allowed/confused a hunt in an illegal zone/corridor.
 
Sorry, I was responding to Patty59's post. The Grizzly bear killed by the client was forfeited to the Territory when the guide allowed/confused a hunt in an illegal zone/corridor.

yes on the demspter highway there is a 8kms corridor for Grizzly except around tombstone park ...
 
yes on the demspter highway there is a 8kms corridor for Grizzly except around tombstone park ...

You're killing me medvedqc!!!! LOL!!! :cheers:

I'm trying to illustrate, with legal precedent, that animals killed in zones or corridors that are closed in the Yukon are typically forfeited to the Territory.

The Grizzly bear was a recent example of the process. From the information I have heard, it would appear that at least one of the rams would be or should be surrendered under similar circumstances.
 
Moon,

if i as a local hunter had done that the sheep will be away from my home.

there is certainly something that happens betwen the lawyers the Crown and the environment office.

last local hunters that done something wrong when special guiding they lost their boat engine and trailer and no right for hunting for the next five years and they plead guilty also ...

depending on which lawyer you can hire.
 
If the names of the hunters are in the court documents do you no who they are and are you allowed to post them and what were the other 2 charges.
Thanks for your time.

I'm hesitant to post there names as I dont know there story at all and they are named as part of the second charges and not charged themselves (I assume as I didn't ask for any case info for them).

The charges are Watson did hunt sheep in an area of the Yukon where the hunting of them by him was not permitted contrary to section 6 of the wildlife act. 1 count each for both hunters.

And being an outfitter did provide a guide to (hunters name) for the purpose of his hunting sheep other than under the authority of an operating certificate or in accordsnce of the certificate, the outfitting concession and the wildlife act section 55. One count for each hunter.

The third sheep I mentioned would be the recently departed self promoting, no all outdoor personality. If his was shoot in the proper zone and Watson said he had the zones confused well I don't see how this could be true if he had sheep in camp from both zones. If he was confused he still then knowingly hunted in both zones.
 
I have no dog in this fight to be clear!! Unless I am mistaken, none of us were there to know whether it was a calculated decision or an honest mistake. I would embarrassed to be publicly judging and bad mouthing someone's character/integrity/business based on assumptions and guess work! In my opinion, these people are no better than an outfitter that breaks the law!!
 
I have no dog in this fight to be clear!! Unless I am mistaken, none of us were there to know whether it was a calculated decision or an honest mistake. I would embarrassed to be publicly judging and bad mouthing someone's character/integrity/business based on assumptions and guess work! In my opinion, these people are no better than an outfitter that breaks the law!!

Assumptions and guesswork? It has gone to court and the outfitter guide has been found guilty. It's not assumed or guesswork at all.
 
I have no dog in this fight to be clear!! Unless I am mistaken, none of us were there to know whether it was a calculated decision or an honest mistake. I would embarrassed to be publicly judging and bad mouthing someone's character/integrity/business based on assumptions and guess work! In my opinion, these people are no better than an outfitter that breaks the law!!

you are right if it was the first time for this guy and if it was an honest mystake ... there is no assumptions on the fact that he plead guilty two times for hunters taken out of season .... i reported here and it s bringing a good discussion between the pro-guide outfitter fans or supporters and the local ones ... that is life to have discussion dont you think? he stayed civilized too?!!!!!

as i said in the previous posts it was before he was supposed to be in the area that he can hunt only after the 1st of september not before so out season hunting (try to do that where you hunt and report what you got) and this is a fact, the map of the aera shown enough evidences that you cant be fooled where you are and where you think you are ...
 
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