Just got back from our range. Spend some quality time shooting and making new friends. Below I will try to summarise my impressions of Tavor and some targets for your jundgement.
First thing one would notice - Tavor barely fits rifle hardcases, or doesn't fit at all. Second impression ( in chrono order) would be that Tavor doesn't fit rifle rack at the range for it is so short. I was scratching my head thinking what do I do now, rules are somewhat stringent at our range. They say "rack the gun" - you rack the gun.
First few shot I did early in the morning yesterday before everybody showed up. I found grouping being disappointing, so I took Tavor apart and cleaned the bore and then I used benchrest cleaner that dissolve the copper - there was a lot of copper fouling, visible flakes on the patch. Taking down Tavor beats even Kalashnikovs, it kinda falls apart from mental effort only. First dedicated group at 50 yards after the cleaning
then some more from other guys, at 50 yards
then another one at 100 yards. I used bigger bull for red dot is about 6.5MOA and this bigger bull leaves little dark edges, much easier to aim accurately. Hence is visible improvement in grouping
here is one at 25 yards
Groups aren't that impressive for benchresters around here, but I say there is a lot of potential for improvement. As you can see most spreads are vertical, that is explained below. I say with red dot there is about 0.5" aiming inaccuracy. Plus if someone tweaks good handloads, lighter trigger and whatnot, it can be shrunk under 1MOA easy. Some targets shot at 50 yards in long strings (20 shots or more) revealed drift of POI to the right with heat build up, still within the bull though.
The gun is awesome, I really like the ergonomics of it, by far the best fitting gun I ever had in my hands. I am not too happy with mag release, I guess I am a bit too spoiled with AK74's. There were some folks ( and those are folks who knows how to shoot) that weren't too happy with cocking handle being in front and bolt release way back... I am sure any young fella given Tavor as his first gun will find Tavor very easy to operate.
Works like a swiss clock, pock pock pock all day. Mind you there was ONE fella and Tavor was jamming in his hands, jam after jam, bent cases, life rounds falling off from underneath - I still can't figure out how can one guy be so bad with the gun. He is a very good shooter ( better than me anyways) but Tavor just won't function in his hands. He was using his handloads too, maybe cases lost their dimentions or whatever. Everybody else just had a blast.
Now is the bad part. Red dot thingey. M21 is it. Total garbage. I wouldn't put it on my guns for free. I say CanadaAmmo cancel the order and get us these beautiful guns with rail only. Let us figure our needs ourselves, OK? Here is why I am so dissappointed - parallax is HUGE. If I move the pupil of my eye I can see dot drifting about 8" across the target. For some reason parallax is only in vertical axes but it ruins all the fun newertheless. Below is a little illustration with target shot by one guy twice, one in uninterrupted string and another one with a small talk between shots.
Overall impression - very good gun. Put descent (or even half descent) optics on it and oh momma...
First thing one would notice - Tavor barely fits rifle hardcases, or doesn't fit at all. Second impression ( in chrono order) would be that Tavor doesn't fit rifle rack at the range for it is so short. I was scratching my head thinking what do I do now, rules are somewhat stringent at our range. They say "rack the gun" - you rack the gun.
First few shot I did early in the morning yesterday before everybody showed up. I found grouping being disappointing, so I took Tavor apart and cleaned the bore and then I used benchrest cleaner that dissolve the copper - there was a lot of copper fouling, visible flakes on the patch. Taking down Tavor beats even Kalashnikovs, it kinda falls apart from mental effort only. First dedicated group at 50 yards after the cleaning
then some more from other guys, at 50 yards
then another one at 100 yards. I used bigger bull for red dot is about 6.5MOA and this bigger bull leaves little dark edges, much easier to aim accurately. Hence is visible improvement in grouping
here is one at 25 yards
Groups aren't that impressive for benchresters around here, but I say there is a lot of potential for improvement. As you can see most spreads are vertical, that is explained below. I say with red dot there is about 0.5" aiming inaccuracy. Plus if someone tweaks good handloads, lighter trigger and whatnot, it can be shrunk under 1MOA easy. Some targets shot at 50 yards in long strings (20 shots or more) revealed drift of POI to the right with heat build up, still within the bull though.
The gun is awesome, I really like the ergonomics of it, by far the best fitting gun I ever had in my hands. I am not too happy with mag release, I guess I am a bit too spoiled with AK74's. There were some folks ( and those are folks who knows how to shoot) that weren't too happy with cocking handle being in front and bolt release way back... I am sure any young fella given Tavor as his first gun will find Tavor very easy to operate.
Works like a swiss clock, pock pock pock all day. Mind you there was ONE fella and Tavor was jamming in his hands, jam after jam, bent cases, life rounds falling off from underneath - I still can't figure out how can one guy be so bad with the gun. He is a very good shooter ( better than me anyways) but Tavor just won't function in his hands. He was using his handloads too, maybe cases lost their dimentions or whatever. Everybody else just had a blast.
Now is the bad part. Red dot thingey. M21 is it. Total garbage. I wouldn't put it on my guns for free. I say CanadaAmmo cancel the order and get us these beautiful guns with rail only. Let us figure our needs ourselves, OK? Here is why I am so dissappointed - parallax is HUGE. If I move the pupil of my eye I can see dot drifting about 8" across the target. For some reason parallax is only in vertical axes but it ruins all the fun newertheless. Below is a little illustration with target shot by one guy twice, one in uninterrupted string and another one with a small talk between shots.
Overall impression - very good gun. Put descent (or even half descent) optics on it and oh momma...
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