Another update to my land issues... Several people charged with various offences
- Thread starter Arclight
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Well - The issue is that things may continue to be adversarial, and beyond the capability of the police to monitor. From the local perspective you are a foreigner from the "big smoke", and that lends to mistrust and aloofness. (Foreigner buys land, puts up signs - "he started it" mentality)
As a transplanted foreigner from the big smoke, I solved the problem by hooking up with some of the locals, and trying to be part of the community. Its paid off - I received more benefits than I have given (eg I have access to prime hunt camp action during deer season, and access to prime duck hunting land, which I don't have on my property.)
If you go this route, you would have some local buddies that could keep an eye on the property, and their ears open at the local Legion. And someone other than your wife to help you pull that deer out of the woods.
As a transplanted foreigner from the big smoke, I solved the problem by hooking up with some of the locals, and trying to be part of the community. Its paid off - I received more benefits than I have given (eg I have access to prime hunt camp action during deer season, and access to prime duck hunting land, which I don't have on my property.)
If you go this route, you would have some local buddies that could keep an eye on the property, and their ears open at the local Legion. And someone other than your wife to help you pull that deer out of the woods.
Yes. There is 1 local - a friend of ours who owns the lot bordering mine, that keeps a eye on things up there. We also have a open invitation to fish for salmon in his streams in the fall. He is not a hunter but does not disagree with it. His brother hunts and can hunt deer in my area in the fall. And the farmer with the fields across the road keeps a eye out. He has had problems with guys going in to his fields to hunt. He said the increased police and MNR activity have had a impact. On the plus side I can go in to his fields if there is game there. He wants the coyotes gone. I want to touch base with a farmer down the road - he raises European deer on his farm, I suspect he would like a dent in the coyote population. My wife was amazed at seeing all the red deer he has. Anyone up there that let's me access their property has access to mine. I am not a hardcase, we just want to enjoy our land as we see fit.
Increasing surveillance and security is a good idea particularly if you aren't there all the time. The idiots live there and may be carrying a grudge.
I went though something similar a few years ago with a couple of turds I discovered on our property. Not much fun.
If your area is anything like ours the controlled deer hunt will sound like WWII on opening day.
Yep. I expect the opener to controlled deer to sound like D day. Last fall for the duck opener, there was so much shooting my wife joked that it sounded like ISIL tried to invade Brantford lol. She was pretty shocked. I told her that's why we buy ammo by the case..
Handcuffed and held for a summary offence ?
Handcuffs are for an indictable offence.
Best of luck.
I did and your right from what I interpret, however, I still dont think it will end well for you.
Judging by the fact that he got cuffed and put in the back of the cruiser I wager there was a reason why he didn't have a pal......
Klebelenator
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- Red Deer, AB
It's unfortunate you had to deal with this BS. Hopefully the police involvement will help send a clear message that you mean business.
My .2 cents:
- I agree with the other poster. Making friends in the community is the best way to becoming accepted by the locals. You don't even have to walk into the local pub to buy rounds for everyone. Just ask them questions about your land, their land, the people, the area... and listen to the answers. That'll win em over more than anything else.
- Be careful going forward. If you suspect a trespasser, call the OPP and wait. As others have said, they now have a grudge, they don't seem to give a flying fudge about laws and common civility, and they are armed. If your hell bent on catching them, make sure your comfortable and prepared with how far things could escalate. When your in the city and people know that there are cameras and eyes everywhere, they act accordingly. When your in the bush with potentially no one around...
- Game cams are a good idea... but hide em good. If they go back, they'll be looking for them. If I were them, I would be. No sense in giving them a few $200 cams.
- If the local OPP are any good, they will make routine rounds for the next few months. Especially during hunting seasons. If there are problems in my area the RCMP are very accommodating.
Sorry if I'm repeating others or telling you something you already know. I definitely empathise with you. I'm in Alberta and this year has been bad for property theft in rural areas.
- I agree with the other poster. Making friends in the community is the best way to becoming accepted by the locals. You don't even have to walk into the local pub to buy rounds for everyone. Just ask them questions about your land, their land, the people, the area... and listen to the answers. That'll win em over more than anything else.
- Be careful going forward. If you suspect a trespasser, call the OPP and wait. As others have said, they now have a grudge, they don't seem to give a flying fudge about laws and common civility, and they are armed. If your hell bent on catching them, make sure your comfortable and prepared with how far things could escalate. When your in the city and people know that there are cameras and eyes everywhere, they act accordingly. When your in the bush with potentially no one around...
- Game cams are a good idea... but hide em good. If they go back, they'll be looking for them. If I were them, I would be. No sense in giving them a few $200 cams.
- If the local OPP are any good, they will make routine rounds for the next few months. Especially during hunting seasons. If there are problems in my area the RCMP are very accommodating.
Sorry if I'm repeating others or telling you something you already know. I definitely empathise with you. I'm in Alberta and this year has been bad for property theft in rural areas.
But he and his friends sound like upstanding citizens!!
It's very frustrating but do yourself, wife and continued ownership of the property a favour and leave the cuffs at home. Nothing good will come of any attempt to handcuff a stranger whether you are armed or not. At the very least it will definitely hit the papers and you and your wife will be a bigger target of the local bozo's!
Game cameras ar good for more then just taking pichers of wild life .
Friends had sumone keying the side of ther truck wen thay fond out who it was thay just politely asked them to stop .
Wen the guy denied it thay showed him the pichers and politely informed him that if thay had to thy will Bring the police in the matter
The next day the key-guy had made arrangements to have the truck repainted at no expense to my friends
Friends had sumone keying the side of ther truck wen thay fond out who it was thay just politely asked them to stop .
Wen the guy denied it thay showed him the pichers and politely informed him that if thay had to thy will Bring the police in the matter
The next day the key-guy had made arrangements to have the truck repainted at no expense to my friends
canadian hunter312
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- Brant County
^^^^Good idea
^^^^Very bad idea
When you consider the trespassers will likely have a firearm and knife, do you honestly think trying to handcuff someone over something as silly as trespassing is worth the risk? Sure, if they're in your home and/or threatening your family, but starting a physical altercation over trespassing to harvest animals? Nonsense.
