I purchased new from tesro an anschutz 1761 about 3 wks ago.there are two major issues im having first I cannot tourq the rear action screw past 8"lbs before the screw gets in the way of the bolt operating. 2nd issue is the mag causes first two shots to go a stray then the last 3 will group.when the bolt picks up the cartridge it is rough to feed nothing smooth about it.i contacted tesro who contacted anschutz a few weeks back(nothing like the quick response on my savage firearms)waiting on a responce.anyone no what mag and rear action screws can do to accuracy and any ideas what to do about it.thanks.
Anschutz 1761 problems
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Hello - I had exactly the same problem with the rear action screw in my 1761. The plastic trigger guard only exasperates the issue. Two fixes for this:
Toss the factory guard and buy one of these:
https://www.nordicmarksman.com/1761-Trigger-Guard-Aluminum.html
Take a few thou at a time off the rear action screw thread until you can safely torque both screws to 2.00 to 2.5 NM. If you don't do this, the bolt will snag on the screw as it protrudes slightly through the receiver.
The first rounds feed issue seems to depend on individual rifles. I got around this by fitting an after market stainless barrel and had my smith machine a chamfer into the base of the chamber as the 1761 has no feed ramp as such.
Yes, expensive fixes which should not be necessary but I finished up with a really nice gun
Toss the factory guard and buy one of these:
https://www.nordicmarksman.com/1761-Trigger-Guard-Aluminum.html
Take a few thou at a time off the rear action screw thread until you can safely torque both screws to 2.00 to 2.5 NM. If you don't do this, the bolt will snag on the screw as it protrudes slightly through the receiver.
The first rounds feed issue seems to depend on individual rifles. I got around this by fitting an after market stainless barrel and had my smith machine a chamfer into the base of the chamber as the 1761 has no feed ramp as such.
Yes, expensive fixes which should not be necessary but I finished up with a really nice gun
Ya I kinda sorta thought about the metal trigger guard but your right,for the price paid it shouldn't be necessary to achieve savage mk2 accuracy. I never thought about the feed ramp on a 1761 chamber.im thinking it is a faulty mag.it is anything but smooth feels like pushing ribbed rebar into a pile of ribbed rebar.i am not a happy camper,how is the accuracy in your 1761 after the upgrades.thanks..Hello - I had exactly the same problem with the rear action screw in my 1761. The plastic trigger guard only exasperates the issue. Two fixes for this:
Toss the factory guard and buy one of these:
https://www.nordicmarksman.com/1761-Trigger-Guard-Aluminum.html
Take a few thou at a time off the rear action screw thread until you can safely torque both screws to 2.00 to 2.5 NM. If you don't do this, the bolt will snag on the screw as it protrudes slightly through the receiver.
The first rounds feed issue seems to depend on individual rifles. I got around this by fitting an after market stainless barrel and had my smith machine a chamfer into the base of the chamber as the 1761 has no feed ramp as such.
Yes, expensive fixes which should not be necessary but I finished up with a really nice gun
25 fouling shots (50M outdoors, magazine fed) from a clean bore before last Monday's shoot:
I've only ever owned a couple of sporters that were capable of shooting a 20X5 at 50 metres into an average in the high .2's".
In my book, an Anschutz ( and I own a couple of them ) have to be good quality rifles out of the box. Having to upgrade the trigger guard and other parts on a rifle of this price is a downer for me. I will keep on to my 54 action Annies.
I hope this does not sound rude. Just expressing my opinion.
Gilbert
I hope this does not sound rude. Just expressing my opinion.
Gilbert
Brutus
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
These seem to be recent problems. This is about the very first time I have seen a thread regards errant Anschutz anything.
Maybe they were scooped by Umarex?
Poorly fitting plastic gun parts is a Umarex monopoly.
Rod B
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
My 2007 Anschutz has not required any upgrades. This begs the question as to what Anschutz is doing with their latest models?I also do not think it should require upgrades to make it accurate, it is the most expensive firearm I have ever purchased as part of a gift.i emailed tesro a few times with my frustration.they have told me they are waiting for anschutz to deliver mags and action screw to send me.im going to grind down the rear action screw for now and replace it when a new one arrives I cant tinker with the accuracy when I cant tourq past 8"lbs(savage dealt with my problems within the week,anschutz I don't know when)as for the mag i will take this one apart and if I wreck it so be it,shooting only 3 rounds at a time wrecks the fluidity of my shooting,also I'm worried about damaging the chamber because the rough feeding.
Although the 1761 is a new Anschutz model, having been available since last year, there aren't many threads about them. At the same time there are even fewer threads about problems with the model. It's possible that like every new model -- even the much-lauded Vudoo -- the 1761 has some teething problems.
Regarding issues with 54 sporters or match rifles, there aren't many shooters who report problems with them -- and it's on forums such as these where they are so often made public. And certainly big problems are rare. Some shooters put custom barrels on most rifles they own. But it's not an exaggeration to say that among factory barrels, Anschutz tubes are among the best. Of course, there may be the very few that are substandard.
With regard to the OP's problems, I've never seen a 1761. I'm imagining that when tightened past a certain point his rear action screw begins to protrude into the bolt raceway. If that is the case, he might wish to consider if his rear action screw might not interfere with the bolt if it were shortened a bit. Alternatively, he might consider a shim for the rear action screw under the trigger guard.
About the magazine and accuracy, it would be strange if a rifle consistently shot the first two shots errantly and the others in the magazine grouped consistently. Does the OP confirm that it happens all the time? Magazine ammo accuracy can be affected if the magazine is causing rounds to load improperly in such a way that lead is shaved off the bullet itself on its way into the chamber. Try loading a few first rounds and see if this is the case. Alternatively, try single loading without the magazine. Once properly in the chamber it should be irrelevant whether the magazine is in place.
In addition, it's useful to keep in mind that just because a rifle says Anschutz on it doesn't mean that it will shoot all ammo equally well. Fliers and errant shots happen most often with this rifle -- or any other good one, even with a custom barrel -- when the ammo isn't up to the job. No rifle will outshoot the ammo it's given.
About the quickness of a response from Anschutz, or lack thereof, keep in mind that problems such as these must be very difficult to diagnose through a third party query, even if it is from a small Canadian dealer.
Can some pictures be posted of the suspected problem areas?
Regarding issues with 54 sporters or match rifles, there aren't many shooters who report problems with them -- and it's on forums such as these where they are so often made public. And certainly big problems are rare. Some shooters put custom barrels on most rifles they own. But it's not an exaggeration to say that among factory barrels, Anschutz tubes are among the best. Of course, there may be the very few that are substandard.
With regard to the OP's problems, I've never seen a 1761. I'm imagining that when tightened past a certain point his rear action screw begins to protrude into the bolt raceway. If that is the case, he might wish to consider if his rear action screw might not interfere with the bolt if it were shortened a bit. Alternatively, he might consider a shim for the rear action screw under the trigger guard.
About the magazine and accuracy, it would be strange if a rifle consistently shot the first two shots errantly and the others in the magazine grouped consistently. Does the OP confirm that it happens all the time? Magazine ammo accuracy can be affected if the magazine is causing rounds to load improperly in such a way that lead is shaved off the bullet itself on its way into the chamber. Try loading a few first rounds and see if this is the case. Alternatively, try single loading without the magazine. Once properly in the chamber it should be irrelevant whether the magazine is in place.
In addition, it's useful to keep in mind that just because a rifle says Anschutz on it doesn't mean that it will shoot all ammo equally well. Fliers and errant shots happen most often with this rifle -- or any other good one, even with a custom barrel -- when the ammo isn't up to the job. No rifle will outshoot the ammo it's given.
About the quickness of a response from Anschutz, or lack thereof, keep in mind that problems such as these must be very difficult to diagnose through a third party query, even if it is from a small Canadian dealer.
Can some pictures be posted of the suspected problem areas?
I have a 1416 and 1903 which are both 64 models and neither have these issues so it's not a model 64 issue but it sounds like a 1761 issue. Both my annies shoot 1/2 inch groups at 50 yards as they came from the factory as they should. I'd try taking the action screw down a little bit at a time until there is no longer a clearance issue. For the ammo grouping issue I'm not sure but try to watch as it's feeding the rounds to make sure they aren't dragging or catching as they are going in the chamber.
I have shot Anschutz for over 50 years. Have owned many during that time from 190's to BR50's, etc. All shot well, but I have had the occasional ejection issue with a model or two. I acquired a 1761MSR recently and am very happy with it. No operating issues, and keeps them into 1/2" bulls with SK Flatnose Match.
Sorry to hear of your dilemma. That's not the norm for an Annie. You may want to touch base with Nordic.
Sorry to hear of your dilemma. That's not the norm for an Annie. You may want to touch base with Nordic.
Yes I have tested it with 12 flavors of sk,lapua,eley,rws and all first shots in the 5 round mag are erratic and many times the second as well.when I feed only 3 in the mag the group's are anschutz worthy.when I put say 5 tenex biathlon the group looks like federal aotomatch,and that is with every brand I've tried.when I first used it the bolt was jamming every round to the top of the chamber and thus damaging the cartridge,that has subsided and now it feels the cartridges are not being smoothly chambered, let's just say my savage mk2 and tikka tx1 are like butter compared to the anshutz I believe the rough feeding causes the gun to move also effecting accuracy.
Don't get me wrong,all in all the anschutz looks and feels like quality no two way about it.but mine is lacking in some places.im hoping a different mag will rectify the situation, as Gillis mentioned about the plastic trigger guard on an otherwise well made firearm is puzzling to say the least(yes I understand cost cutting)but still only being able to tourq to 8"lbs is unexpected considering they say tourq to 2.5nm which is around 22"lbs.so you would figure that is what was done at factory,and if it was they would of not been able to open and close the bolt.did the wood shrink in our canadian weather,who knows.
Allan harris that is exact setup i was looking at,I emailed greenlaw and he got back to me immediately, so I'm going to order the deluxe from bullseye and use until the top comes from greenlaw which is a few months.he seems to make a quality product.which centre rod did you use,the caldwell or order another from greenlaw.thwnks
