Anti Family

With the internet, it seems everyone grew up in a different part of Canada. Now for those that have parents that do not like evil baby killing guns in the homes, I sympathise, and relate.

I too, had an anti gun father, and was raised in the city, and would shoot a .22 pellet gun I was given at age 8. You see, my parents were European immigrants to Canada, and have suffered some of the most horrifying things imaginable. My father himself was a “cold war” victim, actually political prisoner. I didn’t know it until his death in 1988, but he was caught in the 1950’s stealing blueprints of Russian tanks for our friends to the south. He lost 7 years of his freedom for that. My mother tells stories of being bombed in WWII and running to the bomb shelter at the age of 6.
So, don’t take it to heart when your family or co-workers don’t agree with hunting. You don’t know their complete background. You also don’t have to agree, and it’s most certainly okay to agree to disagree, just respect them.
I now live in rural Ontario, and am raising my own family. Things are totally opposite. Most people here, including me, hunt. Deer, turkey, geese, ducks, pheasant, coons, coyotes are all on the list. Most people here are not anti-gun. In fact, some of the people i have met are some of the nicest people you will ever meet. My loving wife supports me and my recreational gun hobby because of how she was raised: her dad is a farmer, and she use to have an FAC herself for work.

My son and I were looking at baseball gloves the other day at Walmart and got talking to a couple, then the next thing you know we are invited to EESA to shoot bow/arrow. I feel a sense of fellowship in these people, and the same for the many i have met at the gun club.

So now, i get to choice on how to raise my child. Firstly, is safety, and i don't mind the locked gun cabinets, and safes (storage regs).

As far as shooting sports and archery, I give them the same recognition in sports as soccor, hockey, baseball, and swimming. He will pick what he likes, when he is ready but whatever he chooses, he has his dads and moms support.
 
Toy guns that looked like guns were verboten in my house. ( I grew up in late 70's and 80's, when Lawn Darts were still legal) My friends were all dressing in camouflage as was the rage (M-81 and Vietnam Tigerstripe), and all I was allowed was a cap in Olive Drab, so I wore a khaki colored jacket and built my own "guns" from old hockey-sticks.

My mom cried when she found I I had my RPAL (i intentionally didn't tell her) but now she is OK with it.

Its because my parents were quasi-pacifist hippies. I think the 60's counter-culture revolution was the diredct result of the Hawkish, "Big-Business" economic boom of the post-war period and those baby-boomer hippies are responsible for the sorry state of the world being a liberal-social engineer's ball of string.

Stand firm in your conviction to hunt and simply take a neutral, educational position against your ignorant anti-relatives, who likely are replying from emotional point of view.
 
I guess I had it pretty easy after reading all these story...

I am the first one in my familly to own gun and enjoy shooting, Its been a year since I had my license and since then I now own 5 guns! at first my mom told me that she didint what any gun in her house but now shes all good with it. my dad is a police officer so I had no probleme with him and now he whants to try my guns. I told him to do his license and he told me: Why?? when I can shoot yours for free? lol so I guess its all good my girlfriend told me tonight that she wanted to comme to the range with me that its been a while she dint shoot my sks! lol And she whants to try my new rem 870! so I guess I have it kind of easy.
 
Everyone is entitled their opinion, there is no need to try and change their minds. I was fortunate that my father was a big time hunter and fisherman and loved the outdoors. He is over 80 now and still has more firearms than I do!
 
True story

met my wife 5 years ago. During the begining of the relationship, the "meet the parents" diner took place. At this point the parents knew I was a good guy, but, in jest teh father took me downstairs with a beer, to do his fatherly duty and show me his gun collection.

-I had no idea he had firearms
-he had no idea I was into firearms
-he was being funny as to the "hurt my daughter" thingy

so he opens his safe, and reaches in and grabs a black rifle, he starts to "tell me about it" - before he spits out a vowel, I say "Hey, nice Tikka.... .22-250 too, sweet caliber."

the stunned look on his face - priceless.

so, we had to look at each one.

to the OP - I feel bad that is your family's stance - I guess I just got lucky.
 
My grandfather had guns and my father had guns and I have guns! My first time was in the back of my grandfather friends farm, it was with a savage 303 leaver action, I was 5 or 6 years old and my grandfather had to hold the rifle and me so I would not fall down........ Later on my dad would take me to the fall fairs and they would have a booth set up where you could shoot 22's and or win a prize ( I think the sights were bent on the rifles) When I was 13 or 14 I got a single shot 22 for christmas............ now to update....... I have a few guns now and enjoy shooting...in a safe manner, but to my brother inlaw, guns are evil, he has bought into the line that firearms should all be banned and blames my interest in firearms on the "retarded alberta rednecks" and says I will come to my senses soon.................Personally, I dough it... R:d::dancingbanana::evil::ar15:

............and by the way.......even my mother has guns,not bad for an 86yr old !!!:D
 
I assumed my parents were anti-gun.

My father has never stated which political party he prefers (if any), or who he's voted for. My mother, in the 80's and early 90's was a dyed-in-red Liberal supporter, and a member of a pretty big union (a union that goes to bat for NDP candidates in elections).

So I always just figured them for anti-gun people.

Dad still won't say who he votes for - but he does vote, early and often. I've converted Mom into a Conservative supporter. When I decided I wanted to become a firearms owner, I never mentioned it to them. Didn't tell them I was taking the CFSC/CRFSC until I mentioned it to Mom the day before.

Turns out Mom's not as anti as I thought. Didn't mention it to Dad until after the course was over (and I got a 99% overall average). Told him about a MNR magazine/pamphlet I was reading during one of the breaks, and how I was reading about Moose hunting, and the number of tags available, Wildlife Management Units, etc.

As soon as I said "moose hunting" he said he's going to get his PAL and take the Ontario Hunter Education Course. Never would have thought that born-and-raised-in-Toronto-9-to-5-office-job Dad wanted to go with me to hunt for moose.

As for the rest of my family - I'm pretty sure they're not anti-gun, but if they are they can stuff it (especially when my freezer's full of moose and/or deer meat).
 
Education Education Education.
A couple of arguments that help.
1. A firearm is a tool. Like a Hammer. It can be lethal if misused my anyone.
2. Much like a hammer, Guns come in different sizes for a reason. You do not use a 30lb sledgehammer to set a finishing nail, nor do you use a tack driver on a twelve inch ardox spike. And once you are finished with the tool, you put it away.
 
Surprised this thread is still alive tbh, but hey i guess it's update time. Thanks to a family friend sending me a fixer-upper cooey 84 which arrives sometime tomorrow they've softened up on the issue. Basically convinced them that I can't be storing it at a friends house if I need to work on it constantly. Then depending on Mr. Paycheck on Friday I might test my hypothesis of "If one is ok two can't be that bad".
 
Then depending on Mr. Paycheck on Friday I might test my hypothesis of "If one is ok two can't be that bad".

Read a solid tactic on another forum.

Buy a safe and bring it home. Lock it, then challenge your parents, and/or whoever else lives in the house, to get into it. Don't tell them what's in it, but do tell them that there could be anything in there - firearms, money, family pictures. Make a deal with them - if they can get into it you won't bring firearms into the house. If they can't get into it, it shouldn't matter to them what you store in there - firearms included.
 
Read a solid tactic on another forum.

Buy a safe and bring it home. Lock it, then challenge your parents, and/or whoever else lives in the house, to get into it. Don't tell them what's in it, but do tell them that there could be anything in there - firearms, money, family pictures. Make a deal with them - if they can get into it you won't bring firearms into the house. If they can't get into it, it shouldn't matter to them what you store in there - firearms included.

LMAO, knowing my parents there'd be a sledgehammer involved. But I do think buying a safe would show them I'm serious about safety and mean to keep my baby in the house.
 
Well my dad had a grin on his face when he handled my shotgun today (with trigger lock attached). So I think I'm gaining a foothold. Also told him I was going to go purchase a gun cabinet/safe from Crappytire. He seemed to think for a second then nodded in approval. Starting to like my chances.
 
All this family push back is too bad...

I am getting huge amounts of support from my family.

My getting my firearms license was driven by a family heirloom piece. My Grandfather (my mum's dad) had an extensive firearms collection. There is precisely one item left from the collection, I fully intend to keep it.

My Dad used to hunt, and shoot trap, and my mum sees it as honoring my Grandfather, so I am getting huge amounts of support.

The only thing I have had push back on was a suggestion I made about reciveing money as birthday gifts to purchase Amo and or guns...
 
Dont feel bad about the parent thing , since i was about 16 i wanted a firearm and i always got the "over my dead body " response. Well for the past year or so ive been continuing to mention it and talk about going for my license and explaining things as best i can , and still got "will never happen , over my dead body" .

My dad , im pretty sure is a closet liberal as he was PISSED when he found out i got my firearms license and i mean PISSSSSED. which is odd because his dad used to hunt and so did my moms dad . His dad was an avid 24/7 hunter and i even went along with him with his shotgun in the back window of the pickup and he never said anything .. which is ####ed..

Since getting my license ive kept bringing it up to my mom as she slowly seemed to come around after i had taken the classes and when i finally came home with my norc m14 her entire attitude seems to go 180.o . I explained all the firearms laws and how what your allowed to do today isnt what it was like back in her day . She laid out a few rules about what wont happen in the house and we were cool , she even wanted to see it and hold it . She didnt even get upset when i told her i had an m&p 40 coming along in about 3 weeks . She actually didnt expect me to get a rifle originally , she just thought i was going to get a handgun .

With my dad its just been out of sight out of mind i dont really want to say anything but ill eventually have to i guess but down the road.

Found out my mom never wanted anything to do with them or be near them because some dumbasses actually thought a bb gun was unloaded and she caught a round through the lip and into her teeth . But i think the important thing is when i explained how that sort of stuff cannot happen and explained ACTS and PROVE she seemed totally relaxed .

Its all about reversing misinformation and education .
 
I only have about 8 days left of waiting, according to the 28 day rule.

People that are not into firearms just don't get it. I haven't told many people other than a couple of friends. I don't plan on telling anyone else because my family is very Liberal.

My mom and my aunt really freaked out when we were cleaning out my grandfather's house and they found his old shotgun that he used for hunting. They called the police immediately.

My father....he's the "do as I say, not do as I do" type. He's okay with my brother-in-law breaking his liberal laws to shoot his dog when it got hit by a truck but he's opposed to someone owning any firearm to shoot clay/paper targets. What a hypocrite!
 
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