Antique revolver suggestion for frequent use
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Remington 44 CF case length(at least according to Wikipedia) is longer( 27.1mm vs 24.6mm) than 44 Russian. Cases for 44 Colt(28 mm length) will also chamber in my gun , 44-40 (33mm length) will not. If you mean smaller by case diameter, I am not sure maybe. Nonetheless, 44 Russian cases and 44 Colt cases fit my chamber with the appropriate heeled projectile. 44 Colt is closer in case volume to 44 Remington CF brass but harder to source than 44 Russian. 44 S&W special brass might also work and be easier to source. I use a steel mold from Buffalo Arms (447250) that was designed for 44 Remington CF receiver. It throws a .447 diameter 250 grain RNFP bullet that tapers to .429 at the base. I use soft lead as this gives the projectile a chance to "bump up" into the generous forcing cone diameter of ~.448 inches. This gives reasonable accuracy. I also typically crimp the brass.
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The 44 Remington was supposed to be smaller dimensionally than 44 Colt which like I posted earlier dimensionally different than 44 Russian.
My impression is that Remington tolerances were all over the place for chambers. I've heard of a guy who could load 44 Colt in his 44 Remington but you being able to load 44 Russian I don't think is common?
I'm not trolling so don't take me wrong way. I love these old guns. I used to own a reproduction 1875 in 44wcf.and I regret selling it. I've been looking hard at originals.
The problem with Remington 1875 in my opinion was the rimfire chambers. Then when they did chamber in center fire they apparently kept that oversized 46 cal barrel . Chamber dimensions and throats or leads in the cylinder seem to be oversized depending on caliber.
So to buy one used. Even if local. Chances are the seller isn't going to let you slug the barrel.
You can buy purpose 44 Remington mould through I think old west bullet molds and I have the name of a guy here somewhere that used to sell 44 Colt brass. Haha but exchange of dollars and tarrifs. Wow this would get expensive
Even for the fact that the 1875s are somewhat overlooked by collectors in favor of Colt SAs they are not exactly common(especially in 44 Remington CF) in Canada. Honestly if you come across one locally and its in semi decent mechanical condition I would not quibble too much about Remington's history with less than precise chamberings. I would just try to figure it out on the backend with your ammo. If one is looking for more of a precision antique hand shooter I would personally suggest a Webley WG. I have one of those too but nonetheless can't overstate how much like my 1875
There are 1875s around. I haven’t
I think they never took off years ago because anyone into big single actions was into colts. The 73 colts had the grip, big black powder cylinder pin,interchangeably parts, and consistent chamber - barrel groove-bore sizes and better ejector.
I believe the colt p model was best black powder gunfight gun ever. The new model 3 S&W probably my first choice as target pistol. But I like those Remingtons to (Smile). Colts are crazy expensive! Heck who knows. In a few years everything will probably be outlawed and seized by government the way we are going.
There are 1875s around. I haven’t looked this week but there was one in Edmonton. Another in BC and a third in Manitoba.Even for the fact that the 1875s are somewhat overlooked by collectors in favor of Colt SAs they are not exactly common(especially in 44 Remington CF) in Canada. Honestly if you come across one locally and its in semi decent mechanical condition I would not quibble too much about Remington's history with less than precise chamberings. I would just try to figure it out on the backend with your ammo. If one is looking for more of a precision antique hand shooter I would personally suggest a Webley WG. I have one of those too but nonetheless can't overstate how much like my 1875
I think they never took off years ago because anyone into big single actions was into colts. The 73 colts had the grip, big black powder cylinder pin,interchangeably parts, and consistent chamber - barrel groove-bore sizes and better ejector.
I believe the colt p model was best black powder gunfight gun ever. The new model 3 S&W probably my first choice as target pistol. But I like those Remingtons to (Smile). Colts are crazy expensive! Heck who knows. In a few years everything will probably be outlawed and seized by government the way we are going.
Even though it's expensive, I'd vote for the c96.
You can have it rebored to 9mm, or buy a spare upper in 9mm for it. Then you can shoot factory 9mm (not +p) safely. I actually have replaced all the parts on it and kept the originals safely locked away to maintain the history of the pistol.
I've put about a thousand through mine now with no issues.
I sold my collection of my favorite rifles, the Remington 600, so my son would have a chance to be able to own and shoot a semi auto handgun in his lifetime. Well worth the 13k invesment in my view.
You can have it rebored to 9mm, or buy a spare upper in 9mm for it. Then you can shoot factory 9mm (not +p) safely. I actually have replaced all the parts on it and kept the originals safely locked away to maintain the history of the pistol.
I've put about a thousand through mine now with no issues.
I sold my collection of my favorite rifles, the Remington 600, so my son would have a chance to be able to own and shoot a semi auto handgun in his lifetime. Well worth the 13k invesment in my view.
I was thinking about doing something kind of similar too. I was thinking about selling my Colt collection to buy a C96. It would hurt to turn 11 Colt revolvers into 1 Mauser semi-auto pistol but after trying out a C96, I will admit it’s more fun to shoot than any of the Colts. So maybe I’ll do it, for my kiddo…..
I use 2.8gr of hp38 with the 100gr boolit.
I used to roll Zig Zag 'whites' around the loaded business end of a 458 Winchester magnum.
Easy peasy to get then molded right.
Better for bigger bores...maybe a smaller round for a revolver bore stuff.
+1 Colt
