I appreciate you standing up for the guy who’s just trying to learn. No one needs being shat on for simply asking a question.
Antique status
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Lol, youre just mad you didn’t get a handholding. Will the rcmp give you one?
MosinMan13
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All due respect but I don’t know that the English language is part of any hobby you’re a part of.
Big words out of the picture, the laws aren’t all that hard to grasp, they’re just ambiguous. In truth the reason we come to a community, like CGN, like your local clubhouse etc, is precisely not to ask random people, but competent, credible, experienced people within our niche community.
I’d rather answer a question a thousand times over than find out someone here got in trouble because they didn’t understand a law that was written to be intentionally dissuading. Not just for the fellow man, but for the whole community in the public light.
I used too big of words for you, and you expect to understand the criminal code? And i’m the one struggling with english?
Good luck. With this, and life in general. With that attitude it will be a challenge.
And how would you feel if someone got in trouble because you gave them an explanation you're not informed enough to make? I notice you aren't answering the questions…
MosinMan13
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- Thornbury Ontario
Scroll up big fella, I literally answered in full, proof checked, linked with details, nice try though, the Tu Quoque was a nice touch, really tells us about your complex.
You're explaining to someone who thought the FRT system was a registry….
What you think you explained to them, and what they took from it is entirely different. So despite you questioning my language skills, it still seems you are the one angry, and ill equipped to explain this to them.
So i ask again, when they get in trouble, will you have helped them?
Meanwhile he’s now asking about specific firearm FRTs but bot actually knowing how to look for or understand them because you have not facilitated any actual learning or understanding.
Funny that.
MosinMan13
CGN Regular
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- Thornbury Ontario
Actually in the DMs I’m walking him through it, thanks for your help though, you’ve been ever so helpful since joining CGN this year. I have to wonder what your last username was.
I also did explain how to lookup FRTs on armalytics, and explained how they can be useful in hand with factory letters. I also explained the difference and his confusion between the RCMP letter and the other two.
So sorry but you’re wrong.
+ anyone who knows anything about antiques knows first and foremost you’re almost always at the mercy of the officers you’re in question with. Nobody in this thread has given faulty or bad input but you so far.
MosinMan13
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- Thornbury Ontario
He contacted me after the fact, and I’ve since located and am about to send it his way along with an explanation on why he wasn’t finding it.
Congratulations you berated someone who isn’t tech savvy and someone just trying to help.
Hope that made your day.
I have yet to find any serious flaws in the antique status flowchart in the "stickies." Newcomers to "antiques" should study it hard as a first step. There have been a few inaccurate comments in this thread. Antique status for rifles/shotguns is really very straightforward, for handguns not quite as clear in some cases. Lots of old threads talking about specific models to search.
milsurpo
milsurpo
Do you perpetually play the victim in your life? First it was too big of words confusing you, now you're being “berated” while also sending jab after jab…
You sure you don’t work for Poly-se with this professional crybully routine?
MosinMan13
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- Thornbury Ontario
You misunderstand, your big words didn’t confuse me, it confused me the way which you used big words you didn’t understand. You confused yourself.
We’ve already established you have some sort of complex, so I won’t feed too much into it, because clearly you’re getting off on this in some way.
You came into this thread with little to nothing offered, you critiqued the OP without answering his question, or providing any enlightenment to your higher understanding over him. You slung nothing but ad
hominem at anyone who questioned you.
The real question is, do you have anything tactile, informative or constructive to give here in this thread, pertaining to the OP? If not what are you even doing here.
To be clear. I knew there was not supposed to be a registration of antiques. I just don't think it's smart letting gun grabbers ( to put it nicely) know what you have even though you are completely legal .
Sort of like asking a car theif where you should store your car keys.
The frt system from what I can see has holes in the system. Not all antiques are on it.
Anti gun rcmp can just smile and say you will have your day in court knowing full well they can delay and drag it out for years causing you great expense. Plus you loose your guns for years so if you shoot in a sport. It kills your being able to shoot at your club.
Sort of like asking a car theif where you should store your car keys.
The frt system from what I can see has holes in the system. Not all antiques are on it.
Anti gun rcmp can just smile and say you will have your day in court knowing full well they can delay and drag it out for years causing you great expense. Plus you loose your guns for years so if you shoot in a sport. It kills your being able to shoot at your club.
I've been asked on numerous occasions about antique pistols and the regs surrounding them. I have a lovely 1st. Mod.DA that I bush carry and I've had a bunch pass through my hands to find good homes with friends and family. Currently, I'm awaiting arrival of a New Mod.#3 in .44 Russian. Whenever I'm asked, I try to be concise and as simple as I can be in my explanation. In short, if the the pistol is made prior to 1898 and is in a caliber not on the RCMP list of current calibers, then it's deemed to be antique status. As antique status, no PAL or registration is required. Regulations state that it's legal to carry and discharge anywhere it's legal to carry and discharge any non-restricted firearm. If worn and carried, it must be openly displayed and not concealed under a jacket or shirt. How's that for stupid! If you have it under your jacket you can be charged with carrying a concealed weapon! WTF?
On the link Mosinman provided if you look up s&w new model 3 I could find everything except for a new model 3 single action in 44 Russian.
They list double action and lots of Russian contract models and go back to American models but no new model 3 single actions made from 1880 onward. Or maybe I'm just not navigating the site right?
I would suggest that it is more a case that the regulations do not prohibit the use of antique handguns in circumstances where it would be legal to use a non-restricted firearm, rather than specifically permitting such use.
In addition, ON hunting regulations prohibit the use of restricted firearms for hunting. But antique handguns are not restricted. The regulations do not allow handguns to be used for hunting big game - so that leaves small game hunting as an option.
But keep in mind that most anyone encountered will not know that what you are doing is legal, and will assume that it is illegal. And everyone has a cell phone. I would suggest being circumspect.
You're not doing anything wrong in your search. One of the problems is nomenclature used on different sites for the same pistol. The New Mod. #3 is also known as New Mod. 3 Navy DA.
Such as?
