Antique status

You're not doing anything wrong in your search. One of the problems is nomenclature used on different sites for the same pistol. The New Mod. #3 is also known as New Mod. 3 Navy DA.
Yes you are right. They have the single and double action together but the description is just confusing. Not really saying anything except 1000 made between 1882 and 1883. Also says serial number range from 8900 to 10100. ??????
 
Yes you are right. They have the single and double action together but the description is just confusing. Not really saying anything except 1000 made between 1882 and 1883. Also says serial number range from 8900 to 10100. ??????
A lot of what they have on the frt is in accurate. Its scary because that's what the police use to determine what class a firearm is.

Some pistols that can be antique purposely have had any reference to antique status deleted off the frt.
 
I will find his user name for a forum search but there is an extensive thread from Mark O. On Antique status and also dealing with PRE addendum and Post addendum Antique class . The basis is pre Addendum u could convert a pre 1898 .45 LC to a “ go cal “ eg. .41 LC and submit for de registration and rcmp antique letter confirming status . Post Addendum you could no longer do that . It must be pre 1898 and have started life as a “ go cal “ . Of all things .38 special is a go cal . So guys have presumably taken a .41 or a .455 or .476 or whatever or !!!! What I suspect on “ occasion “ is a USA purchased NON registered NO go cal Colt pre 1898 and then re barreled and new cylinder in .38 special and hold it out to be Antique status . Under close scrutiny and investigation you will be screwed . They will NOT have an RCMP “ letter confirming the gun in .38 special unless it was done “ pre “ . RCMP will not issue an antique letter any more unless the gun has been submitted for reclassification ( erroneously registered ) for whatever reason and you go through the process w Ottawa “ ident “ to have it de registered and reclassified and as a result a letter is produced . It’s a slippery slope selling re barrelled “re cylinder’d “ SAA’s . Be prepared as said above ^^ to demonstrate black n white how it started life . The FRT” Armalytics “
Is NOT a legal site . As said above all it is , is an accumulation of data which shows you how to narrow down if not indeed specifically identify the status of your piece .
The more “ WE “ push the envelope “ the closer we dig our own hole to the complete doing away with antique status . If you think it’s not on the radar re insert head up A$$ .
GO and NO cals are listed on the rcmp web site .
There are other twists n turns but there ya go for the basics of it .
When I remember Marks user name I will post for the thread search .
Cheers
 
The number of things here you don’t understand or misunderstand is quite substantial.

It would be very unwise of you to continue in this area of research without getting a better handle on what the FRT system is, and the definitions in the criminal code, firearms act and the associated legislation and prescribed regulations.


Do not pass go. Do not collect 200 dollars.
He asked for someone to answer questions and found a gatekeeper
 
On a side note, I don’t understand the desire to convert calibers. I found a good source for uncommon ammo and have been dabbling a lot with cap and ball revolvers lately. You don’t need ammo, they have their own loading press built in, what’s not to love?
 
On a side note, I don’t understand the desire to convert calibers. I found a good source for uncommon ammo and have been dabbling a lot with cap and ball revolvers lately. You don’t need ammo, they have their own loading press built in, what’s not to love?

This is where my head is at, part of the love is the lore. Learning to do things the tradition way and having fun appreciating your functioning relic of a bygone era. It’s a piece of history, that’s cool enough on its own.
 
dingus is the user name which escaped me in my above comments . Search out his name in forums for a lengthy explanation on antiques and status . If I later get the energy or bother to search I will post the thread .
Cheers
 
The more “ WE “ push the envelope “ the closer we dig our own hole to the complete doing away with antique status . If you think it’s not on the radar re insert head up A$$ .

Cheers
You wouldn't think criminals would not be using $10,000 plus colts to rob in order to feed their drug addictions. If they can get their hands on illegal guns coming in from other countries I'm sure they could also get their hands on cheaper illegal guns brought in with their dope.
I suspect when it is politically acceptable that Ottawa and their police force will just declare all firearms regardless of what they are as deadly weapons and just take everything.
Seems ridiculous that currently we can't even buy a reproduction of a 1851 navy to go cowboy action shooting with.
 
On a side note, I don’t understand the desire to convert calibers. I found a good source for uncommon ammo and have been dabbling a lot with cap and ball revolvers lately. You don’t need ammo, they have their own loading press built in, what’s not to love?
If you want to shoot indoor matches during the winter at your gun club.
A cartridge conversion would allow light smokeless loads.
 
I see rustywood offering offering cap and ball revolvers from time to time with new fitted cylinders, etc.
if a gun has wore out parts or cylinder pitted and nipples stuck. It makes sense to rebuild and get it running again.
Rustywood also has antique rifles for sale
He had a 40/82 Winchester model 1886 as a antique but someone on here I think said that a rifle had to be 45 caliber to be antique status
 
40/82 Win ‘86 antique I suppose by DOM but NOT antique class !!!! Regardless of bore dia . It has a tube magazine / repeater . Does NOT qualify !! 8.3 mm bore dia . It is fine but does NOT satisfy all requirements
 
40/82 Win ‘86 antique I suppose by DOM but NOT antique class !!!! Regardless of bore dia . It has a tube magazine / repeater . Does NOT qualify !! 8.3 mm bore dia . It is fine but does NOT satisfy all requirements
Exactly. No centerfire repeating rifle is antique, no matter what caliber or date of manufacture.
 
40/82 Win ‘86 antique I suppose by DOM but NOT antique class !!!! Regardless of bore dia . It has a tube magazine / repeater . Does NOT qualify !! 8.3 mm bore dia . It is fine but does NOT satisfy all requirements
That's good to know. I love winchesters. I was thinking that buying pre 1898 might be a safer investment but apparently no difference.
 
I see rustywood offering offering cap and ball revolvers from time to time with new fitted cylinders, etc.
if a gun has wore out parts or cylinder pitted and nipples stuck. It makes sense to rebuild and get it running again.
Rustywood also has antique rifles for sale
He had a 40/82 Winchester model 1886 as a antique but someone on here I think said that a rifle had to be 45 caliber to be antique status
Rustywood is no stranger to unethical practices.
 
40/82 Win ‘86 antique I suppose by DOM but NOT antique class !!!! Regardless of bore dia . It has a tube magazine / repeater . Does NOT qualify !! 8.3 mm bore dia . It is fine but does NOT satisfy all requirements
I went googled antique status firearms in Canada and it took me to this government website.
https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-98-464/FullText.html
No mention of tube magazines

I hope you are wrong and laws have changed but I strongly suspect you are right.
 
  • 3 A rifle manufactured before 1898 that is capable of discharging centre-fire cartridges, whether with a smooth or rifled bore, having a bore diameter of 8.3 mm or greater, measured from land to land in the case of a rifled bore, with the exception of a repeating firearm fed by any type of cartridge magazine.

Law has not changed it never was simply pre 1898 . And pardon me I said tube mag . I was specifically addressing the 40/82 Winchester mention . 🫤
 
You just proved my point!

Just randomly believing things you read on the internet is a dumb idea I agree. But trying to get opinions from several people on a forum would probably set you in the right direction for further research. Not necessarily take any advice at face value, but with a little more knowledge research is easier.

Then jerks like you come in and sh*t all over the new guy for wanting to learn the ropes.

So all that to say, in the most polite way possible, go f*ck yourself and go somewhere else to bully people to make yourself feel better, we dont need or want you here.
You beat me to it. Agreed.

Cheers
Moe
 
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