the rifle is make at least by frankonia and was made and still certainly by voere.
they re mauser 98k converted a little.
zastava made a bunch of battue in mannlicher stock even left handed for the european market.
Any 9.3mm (.366) hunters out there?
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the rifle is make at least by frankonia and was made and still certainly by voere.
they re mauser 98k converted a little.
zastava made a bunch of battue in mannlicher stock even left handed for the european market.
Johnn Peterson
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The first I acquired from Tradex was the full wood LK M-70 Zastava in 9.3x62, aka
.366 Wagner. While perhaps, lacking a little in finish like smooth action cycling, I was 'well' pleased with results at the range. So much so, I ordered a 'twin' to it from Tradex in 7x57. No regrets and good bang for the buck 
.But, I 'may' have been a little too eager in my purchase of the 7x57. Very shortly after, from a gentleman on site, I acquired a full wood Ruger RSI M77 Hawkeye in 7x57. Stainless & wood and probably a decent choice for Blacktail etc, here on Vancouver Island, the
'wet' coast of Canada.NB:
E-mailed you some applicable cartridge box label photos.
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I bought a lovely Husky in .366 Wagner from the man himself (Hi Ted!) a few years back and I've used it for everything since. Carries great, easy to reload for, and I like the recoil much better than the 308 or the 30-06. Yes, it has some recoil, but it's a shove, not a crack, and for whatever reason I just like it better (even off the bench). 250 grain TTSX, have yet to recover a bullet. One cow and two deer so far.
Hi Dennis,
As you know, the easiest way to overcome recoil of hunting rifles at the bench, is to set up the bags so you are sitting upright, rather than bent way down and all scrunched up behind the rifle. The recoil then is transferred in much the same way as during shots fired while hunting.
Your upper body moves rearward with the recoil rather than soaking it all up, and the recoil feels remarkably lighter.
My preference is still 270-290 gr plain vanilla cup and core or bonded bullets at 2400 to 2600 fps for everything from caribou and moose to bears and bison. They have never failed to perform for me. How did those 250 TTSX perform on game? I remember they sure looked good when you water-tested them with us up here.
Glad you are pleased with the rifle!
Ted
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Barnes_270
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- Location
- Langley, BC
They've been brilliant - anchored all three right where they stood, dead right there. Although a 250 grain TTSX is probably overkill for coastal blacktails... but, dead is dead, and I prefer using the same rifle for everything - how it shoulders, how it swings, familiarity with the action, etc. Using mono bullets also means no meat loss either, though there are of course good ways to minimize that without using monometals. I have a cast / powder coated load worked up for target practice (the 285 gr NOE) so it's cheap to shoot at the range as well.
littlehughey
Regular
- Location
- Central Alberta
I've been thinking about this all day since taking my 375 ruger out for a maiden voyage this morning. Thanks for articulating it so clearly. I took a lot of abuse firing 25 rounds off the bench all hunched over.
Barnes_270
Regular
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- Langley, BC
Sage advice, Ted - I think having a Ted Wagner special, double-layer recoil pad helps too.
Did I ever tell you that the gunsmith that drilled and tapped the rifle for me complimented it and asked where I had had that done?The double pads, especially, really work. I installed one on a Ruger in 338 Win Mag for a friend of mine, and he says it makes the recoil feel like his 270 Winchester.
Although some may think flip-flops are goofy, as you have discovered they really do reduce recoil, Dennis. As well, they are very light, and are being installed by some high level custom makers on ultralight rifles. Less than two ounces instead of six or seven makes quite a difference.
Appreciate you passing your gunsmith's thoughts about it on to me.
Ted
Although some may think flip-flops are goofy, as you have discovered they really do reduce recoil, Dennis. As well, they are very light, and are being installed by some high level custom makers on ultralight rifles. Less than two ounces instead of six or seven makes quite a difference.
Appreciate you passing your gunsmith's thoughts about it on to me.
Ted
Am really liking my new Sako 85 LH Hunter in 9.3x62!
Shoots very well with the Nosler 250gr AccuBond ammo (1/2" groups) and recoil is pleasant off of the bench. The 285gr ammo fro Lapua and Norma definitely have more recoil, but is not unmanageable.
Unfortunately, I was unable to sneak a bullet through the willows and bring home a nice 3 yr old bull moose this past season, but that was not the rifle's fault. So still looking forward to my first harvest with this rifle.
Looking forward to using it on moose, elk, bear and bison!
Shoots very well with the Nosler 250gr AccuBond ammo (1/2" groups) and recoil is pleasant off of the bench. The 285gr ammo fro Lapua and Norma definitely have more recoil, but is not unmanageable.
Unfortunately, I was unable to sneak a bullet through the willows and bring home a nice 3 yr old bull moose this past season, but that was not the rifle's fault. So still looking forward to my first harvest with this rifle.
Looking forward to using it on moose, elk, bear and bison!
For some reason I built a 9.3/375 Ruger a while ago. 23” Benchmark barrel, McMillan stock, in a Ruger MK2 stainless.
Shoots 250gr Barnes with RL 15 really well nearing 2900 FPS. But it hasn’t seen a hunting trip yet which is a shame. I’d like to take it to Africa one day.
I somehow missed this build... I get you saying "for some reason..." it makes absolutely no sense... I like it! Heck, something different is fun... I have shot several 9.3's ie. 9.3X57, 9.3X62, 9.3X74R... while I don't believe that I would neck down the .375 Ruger case to 9.3, it would not take much convincing to get me to neck down to .35 cal... I need that one like a hole in the head with half a dozen .35's in the cabinet including two .350 RM's, but I would probably load it hot and peppy with a sleeker bullet, unlike my current .35 penchant of Partitions and cup and cores. I even have a platform donor rifle sitting in the shop.
I'm hoping one day I will kill something with it and prove its existence as a hunting rifle. Ideally a plains game smorgasbord but even a porcupine would be a good start. I have the same problem with my 375 Ruger and my 416 Ruger. It seems building a rifle is easier than finding the time, the tags and the downpayment to use it. At least they stack nicely in a safe, kind of...
I do not own a single 35 cal hunting rifle. They're all yours!
I've got the 9.3 x 74R in a Ruger 1-S.
I like the weight of the 1-S better than say a 1-H in 375 H&H.
Bought it too late to hunt with this past season but happy with how it shoots so far.
Even managed to source 100 North Fork bullets before the supply dries up.
I like the weight of the 1-S better than say a 1-H in 375 H&H.
Bought it too late to hunt with this past season but happy with how it shoots so far.
Even managed to source 100 North Fork bullets before the supply dries up.
Funny you should say they "are all mine..." Just got off a side junket online, sourcing .358/375 reamer/dies... after I wrote the post above, I remembered that I not only have the rifle, but also a second Stainless M77 MKII barrel in .350 RM... simple neck down on the brass and rechamber and I am good to go. I had little interest in the Ruger case as a .375, but as a .358, I am stoked... a quirk, I recognize, but we gun nutters are a squirrelly bunch!
I agree with you take on putting builds to practical field use... I never feel that their existence is justified until they have put down an animal... I only have three that have not been put to use as yet, but hopefully 2020 will rectify that.
