Any advice since "AK variants" are banned?

[TheLocalGunNut]

Hello, I have recently just acquired my PAL. I have been shooting for a while with friends and family so I'm not a total newbie to firearms, however I'd say I'm mostly only familiar with the basics.

Now that I have a PAL I'm looking to start collecting my own firearms. I am a huge fan of Russian, Soviet and Eastern Bloc firearms like the Mosin Nagant and the SKS. But one of my all-time favourite guns is the SVD Dragunov. Because the Liberals have decided that just because this gun looks like a big bad scary AK, it should for some reason be prohibited. Though mechanically I wouldn't say there's a huge difference between the SKS and SVD. It's just moronic that these firearms and many more cool semi-auto centrefire rifles are banned, but at this point I'm just preaching to the choir LOL.

Anyway, I've spent a fair amount of time trying to find alternatives to the SVD, but I haven't come up with much. Firearms like the Type 81 SR, SVTs, or the Berkut 2M1, etc., etc., etc., are all either prohibited, insanely hard to find, or way too expensive.

My question is this: Would anybody here have any good ideas for alternatives to the SVD Dragunov or know of any way to modify an SKS to resemble/operate like an SVD? Like, would it be possible for an SKS to eject from the side, or could I even manage to get an SKS with a metal action block and then just get the SVD stock and heat shield grip?

Sorry if this is a naive post, but thank you for taking the time to read this.


-TheLocalGunNut

 

[Goo98]

Valmet M78 with a PSO/POSP scope but you better have deep pockets.

 

[SigWig]

the valmet brand of ak are named non-restricted because they have been provided to northern indigenous hunters.

They aren't cheap

try irunguns

another example

https://www.bullseyenorth.com/shop/...ure-parts-kit-clean-very-good-condition-40274

 

[HCK1]

I would be reluctant to purchase anything along those lines ,if its not prohibited now it could be in the near future

 

[TheLocalGunNut]

Valmet M78 with a PSO/POSP scope but you better have deep pockets.

Boy oh boy. You were NOT kidding about that price tag. Well I guess we'll just have to grit our teeth and keep fighting to get our gun "privileges" back cause I can't justify that price.

 

[Morc]

To think outside the box here.

Intersurplus sells a lot of Baikal firearms. They aren't the type of gun you listed but they are Russian and they are affordable.

 

[Deathrawt]

I think there is a svd style of stock available for the sks but can’t remember who makes it
Otherwise hope our laws change and then get one of those type 81 look alike ones or buy one under the table somewhere

 

[Joel]

Hello, I have recently just acquired my PAL. I have been shooting for a while with friends and family so I'm not a total newbie to firearms, however I'd say I'm mostly only familiar with the basics.

Now that I have a PAL I'm looking to start collecting my own firearms. I am a huge fan of Russian, Soviet and Eastern Bloc firearms like the Mosin Nagant and the SKS. But one of my all-time favourite guns is the SVD Dragunov. Because the Liberals have decided that just because this gun looks like a big bad scary AK, it should for some reason be prohibited. Though mechanically I wouldn't say there's a huge difference between the SKS and SVD. It's just moronic that these firearms and many more cool semi-auto centrefire rifles are banned, but at this point I'm just preaching to the choir LOL.

Anyway, I've spent a fair amount of time trying to find alternatives to the SVD, but I haven't come up with much. Firearms like the Type 81 SR, SVTs, or the Berkut 2M1, etc., etc., etc., are all either prohibited, insanely hard to find, or way too expensive.

My question is this: Would anybody here have any good ideas for alternatives to the SVD Dragunov or know of any way to modify an SKS to resemble/operate like an SVD? Like, would it be possible for an SKS to eject from the side, or could I even manage to get an SKS with a metal action block and then just get the SVD stock and heat shield grip?

Sorry if this is a naive post, but thank you for taking the time to read this.


-TheLocalGunNut

Emigration.

 

[MilsurpLover]

Valmet M78 with a PSO/POSP scope but you better have deep pockets.

Aesthetically cool but not practical. Cautionary tale for those who choose to use an AK Mastermount, it needs hand fitting and you are still looking at a 4-6 MOA gun. Plus with the optic the gun weighs 12-13 LBS.

 

[Goo98]

I would be reluctant to purchase anything along those lines ,if its not prohibited now it could be in the near future

treaty violation if the liberals try it, valmets are immune to bans

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Aesthetically cool but not practical. Cautionary tale for those who choose to use an AK Mastermount, it needs hand fitting and you are still looking at a 4-6 MOA gun. Plus with the optic the gun weighs 12-13 LBS.

Nice is the scope offset and eye relief manageable in that configuration?

 

[mkrnel]

Surprising that nobody is buying up all the cheap Valmet Petra rifles in Europe and importing them here and making a huge profit, after all the Petra is the Finnish named same version of the Valmet Hunter that was supplied to the natives here and is not restricted.

They sell for only about 500 or 600 Euro's over in Europe.

https://www.gunfinder.com/items/9964774?query=Valmet

https://www.gunfinder.com/items/9969371

 

[MilsurpLover]

treaty violation if the liberals try it, valmets are immune to bans

Nice is the scope offset and eye relief manageable in that configuration?

Not really noticeable especially with the eye cup installed. I have taken it out to 400m and am able to ring standard IPSC-sized steel with minimal problems using ####ty bulk 147gr 7.62.

 

[Murray 3-D]

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Aesthetically cool but not practical. Cautionary tale for those who choose to use an AK Mastermount, it needs hand fitting and you are still looking at a 4-6 MOA gun. Plus with the optic the gun weighs 12-13 LBS.

I thought u were getting great accuracy out of this.... like 2moa when u posted it on Reddit ?

 

[Goo98]

Surprising that nobody is buying up all the cheap Valmet Petra rifles in Europe and importing them here and making a huge profit, after all the Petra is the Finnish named same version of the Valmet Hunter that was supplied to the natives here and is not restricted.

They sell for only about 500 or 600 Euro's over in Europe.

https://www.gunfinder.com/items/9964774?query=Valmet

https://www.gunfinder.com/items/9969371

it’s gotta be stamped with hunter or m78, pure evil otherwise

 

[Joel]

treaty violation if the liberals try it, valmets are immune to bans

What treaty would that be?


Do you mean to say it would be a Sec. 35 of The Constitution Act violation because Canada allegedly supplied some Native people with Valmets?

If so it would seem to me that saying "Give us your Valmet and we'll give you a bolt action rifle" would get around that very easily.

 

[Smis Five Creedmoor]

I think there is a svd style of stock available for the sks but can’t remember who makes it
Otherwise hope our laws change and then get one of those type 81 look alike ones or buy one under the table somewhere

there's an ATI stock that makes the SKS look like an SVD

 

[Murray 3-D]

The end result is totally subjective...... but you can mod an SKS into something that provides pretty good SVD vibes.

An SKS dropped into a Choate, ATI or Luckyshot SVD stock. Feeding from duckbilless Tapco mags and equipped with a Molot styled SVD rail and optic fits the role quite well.


I wasnt going for a SVD clone when building up my main shooter SKS, id describe it as SVD themed haha, and mostly went custom. Its a very comfortable plinker, Ive shot out to 900 yards with it. Inside 650 yards its surprisingly effective at engaging 4moa sized targets.

Here's it in action on a very windy day, furthest shots was around 350yards if it recall correctly.

 

[Joel]

The end result is totally subjective...... but you can mod an SKS into something that provides pretty good SVD vibes.

An SKS dropped into a Choate, ATI or Luckyshot SVD stock. Feeding from duckbilless Tapco mags and equipped with a Molot styled SVD rail and optic fits the role quite well.


I wasnt going for a SVD clone when building up my main shooter SKS, id describe it as SVD themed haha, and mostly went custom. Its a very comfortable plinker, Ive shot out to 900 yards with it. Inside 650 yards its surprisingly effective at engaging 4moa sized targets.

Here's it in action on a very windy day, furthest shots was around 350yards if it recall correctly.

It looks pretty nice ergonomically

 

[rajczak_kashka]

treaty violation if the liberals try it, valmets are immune to bans

Nice is the scope offset and eye relief manageable in that configuration?

Valmet immune to bans for indigenous sustenance hunters. I’m suspecting we will soon see both this gun and SKS banned to all except indigenous…

 

[Bullseyenorth]

the valmet brand of ak are named non-restricted because they have been provided to northern indigenous hunters.

They aren't cheap

try irunguns

another example

https://www.bullseyenorth.com/shop/...ure-parts-kit-clean-very-good-condition-40274

Thanks