Any interest in "My .22 mag shoots 1/2" or 3/4" groups @ 100yard challenge????

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Any interest in "My .22 mag shoots 1/2" or 3/4" groups @ 100yard challenge????

Last week end I had my Magnum Research .22 mag out. In all honesty I didn't attempt any real challenge, but know it's very accurate at 100yards with CCI Maxi-Mags. IT loves them. So I was thinking that next week end when I take it back out, I'll attempt to challenge myself at 100yards and shoot 5 targets on one sheet. I'll fire off and make many attempts to get my best result.

So does anyone have any interest in this challenge as well? I'm not saying it has to be 1/2" at 100yards. But possibly make it a challenge to see who can get the best group at 100yards even...... We could make it the same as the .22 challenge as far as the targets go ect...


Interested to see what you all think!

Cheers.
 
You left the words "prove it" out of the thread title~many thanks! :)

As for being involved~I don't own a 22WMR anymore, but partly because I couldn't get it better than about 1-1/4" on average. Best group was about 3/4" (talking 100 yards) but that happened very rarely. Tried LOTS of different ammo types too. It was a great caliber for 100-125 yard groundhog shots and in fact, I sort of miss those days. lol Lighter rifle than my centerfire, 3-9x $50 scope. How times have changed. Anyhow, I'll keep an eye on this thread...as I'm curious about the results people will post~good/bad or otherwise. If there is a rifle/ammo combo capable of good accuracy in 22WMR~I'm very interested in knowing what it is.
 
Seriously, I've never owned a .22 mag that could shoot better than 1.25" @100. I owned a 12" barrelled single action revolver that did 1.5" at 75 yards using CCI ammo and younger eyes. I was 28 , now 44 yrs old. Not a chance to shoot that good anymore with open sights.
 
I have played with a couple. Resent the ammo price difference above 22 lr, the.power difference to centre fire.

Current one I bought, then moved where it really doesn't apply. Browning A bolt 22 mag. If this becomes a thing, I will have to play....try and see if the limited variety of ammo available locally can overcome my shooting ability.

Have three I would like to try on the long rifle challenge.
 
It is often impossible to get better than MOA accuracy with .22WMR because there is no "match" quality ammo made. In .22LR., Eley, RWS, and Lapua make very good (and pricey) match ammo that is more consistent than what's typically available off-the-shelf. There are relatively few .22WMR ammo manufacturers and so choices and variety are limited.

PGW Steve said:
Sure, make it a .22WMR, .17HMR and .17 WSM.....1 inch challenge. I'd like to see failed attempts too, kind of put a realistic spin on what different magnum rifles can do.
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This is a very good idea.
 
As odd as it sounds the Troy laundry 22wmr bulk shoots very well from my 93bsev. I have run about 20 types of ammo through it, and the bulk was the 2nd tightest group.
 
nagol said:
As odd as it sounds the Troy laundry 22wmr bulk shoots very well from my 93bsev. I have run about 20 types of ammo through it, and the bulk was the 2nd tightest group.
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That's the exact ammo I have a few thousand rounds of!! My MR loves it. I appreciate the posts guys. I apologize that I can't post up my personal results for another week, as that's when I'll have a chance to get back out. Unless someone else posts up their best 5 shot groups prior, I'll gladly go first and set the bar!!
 
Here's what I submitted in last months RFC 100 yard challenge, it's a mixed field of .22 LRs and some .17 HMR's over there. My rifle was still new/breaking in and this target was essentially shot for the purpose of "ammo testing", I figured I might as well test on the challenge target in case something good happened. I think now I could get all the groups under 1", though there is always a hot or weak round lurking around the ammo box..... just waiting to spoil the group. That's the biggest part of the challenge, the rifle and I are up to it, the "bulk" like North American ammo? Not so much.



For reference, RFC has a .17 50 and 100 yard club. The target requirements are two 4-shot groups, and the average of the two groups must be 1.000" or less to make the list. Check out the standings for an idea of typical performance before making the requirement here something crazy and unattainable. http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219517
 
RabidM4U5 said:
Here's what I submitted in last months RFC 100 yard challenge, it's a mixed field of .22 LRs and some .17 HMR's over there. My rifle was still new/breaking in and this target was essentially shot for the purpose of "ammo testing", I figured I might as well test on the challenge target in case something good happened. I think now I could get all the groups under 1", though there is always a hot or weak round lurking around the ammo box..... just waiting to spoil the group. That's the biggest part of the challenge, the rifle and I are up to it, the "bulk" like North American ammo? Not so much.



For reference, RFC has a .17 50 and 100 yard club. The target requirements are two 4-shot groups, and the average of the two groups must be 1.000" or less to make the list. Check out the standings for an idea of typical performance before making the requirement here something crazy and unattainable. http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219517
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I don't think it would have to be so formal with an impossible target to achieve. More or less something for fun, yet to still try and achieve the ultimate results. We could sub divide into category even for those interested in the 17s as we know a lot seem to be laser beams already. We could still maintain a list of the top 10 contenders and update as they get beat out maybe??!! Just throwing out ideas.
 
This is the best I could muster on monday with 22lr and match ammo.You can see the difference that ammo make as again center x worked best for me.I didn,t even bother measuring some of the other groups.The center x with 2 different lot # both shot under 1" at 100yds.Trying this without match ammo isn't going to work.I did find shooting at 100yds a lot of fun watching the SV ammo arc lazily through the air.Maybe we should hav e an any rimfire challenge at 100yds


 
If 17 HMR is allowed, I'm in. My new 455 will not be doing me any favors, based on how it shot yesterday.
 
wheeler said:
I don't think it would have to be so formal with an impossible target to achieve. More or less something for fun, yet to still try and achieve the ultimate results. We could sub divide into category even for those interested in the 17s as we know a lot seem to be laser beams already. We could still maintain a list of the top 10 contenders and update as they get beat out maybe??!! Just throwing out ideas.
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Alright, here's what I think, call it the Sub-MOA @ 100 yards club. Four, 5-shot groups that average 1.000" or less, open to all rimfire calibers. Maybe keep a top 10 list of the tightest groups?
 
wheeler said:
Last week end I had my Magnum Research .22 mag out. In all honesty I didn't attempt any real challenge, but know it's very accurate at 100yards with CCI Maxi-Mags. IT loves them. So I was thinking that next week end when I take it back out, I'll attempt to challenge myself at 100yards and shoot 5 targets on one sheet. I'll fire off and make many attempts to get my best result.

So does anyone have any interest in this challenge as well? I'm not saying it has to be 1/2" at 100yards. But possibly make it a challenge to see who can get the best group at 100yards even...... We could make it the same as the .22 challenge as far as the targets go ect...


Interested to see what you all think!

Cheers.
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This is a great idea and while I would not be a participant permit me to offer some suggestions:
1) this is the target:
2) it is printed to FIT on Card Stock or Cover stock paper.
3) One shot is permitted on each of the small squares, and they are measured for size. The size is averaged and becomes your factor for determining group size.
4) Five shots are fired at each of the five large squares. Shots for group must touch or be inside the square.
5) Only 24 shots are required and extra shots lead to disqualification of the target.
6) The calculations are made by the shooter: Raw Group Size minus Sizer Average Diameter equals the Final Group Size. The four Final Groups are then averaged.
7) The largest group must show the actual measurement on a measuring device and only calipers are permitted as a measuring device . . . No Rulers or Tapes!!!

This target was used in a Rimfire Central shoot so the CGN name would be attached in that space.

Just a comment in the interest of consistency. Beyond that . . . ICCL!
 
horseman2 said:
This is a great idea and while I would not be a participant permit me to offer some suggestions:
1) this is the target:
2) it is printed to FIT on Card Stock or Cover stock paper.
3) One shot is permitted on each of the small squares, and they are measured for size. The size is averaged and becomes your factor for determining group size.
4) Five shots are fired at each of the five large squares. Shots for group must touch or be inside the square.
5) Only 24 shots are required and extra shots lead to disqualification of the target.
6) The calculations are made by the shooter: Raw Group Size minus Sizer Average Diameter equals the Final Group Size. The four Final Groups are then averaged.
7) The largest group must show the actual measurement on a measuring device and only calipers are permitted as a measuring device . . . No Rulers or Tapes!!!

This target was used in a Rimfire Central shoot so the CGN name would be attached in that space.

Just a comment in the interest of consistency. Beyond that . . . ICCL!
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Thanks for providing some helpful suggestions. I think it can be simplified even further by not having a prescribed target. While card stock targets are desirable, is it necessary to use one particular target? The .22LR challenge of five groups under half-an-inch on one target (and nothing else) gives the opportunity for shooters to use the targets they like to use.

RabidM4U5 said:
Alright, here's what I think, call it the Sub-MOA @ 100 yards club. Four, 5-shot groups that average 1.000" or less, open to all rimfire calibers. Maybe keep a top 10 list of the tightest groups?
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This idea is good. It's simple, straightforward and doesn't require any special target. All that's needed is a picture of the entire target sheet along with the largest and smallest groups (or indeed all of the groups) measured with calipers with nothing else on the target. The targets with a four group average of one inch or less qualifies. The simpler the requirements, the greater the number of shooters will want to participate.
 
Love the ideas guys!

I feel the simpler the better. I like those targets but personally believe if someone wants to use a bingo dabber an cardboard should be fine. I like the idea of all rimfire being included, but like I mentioned think it should be by caliber specific. I mean to compare a .22mag to a 17hmr at 100yrds will be different as I've shot both. NOT to say a .22mag can't be as accurate. I just wanted to see the interest in a fun challenge for the .22mag as lots of people feel it isn't that accurate. But by the interest with the all rimfire I like!

So lets see if we can agree on some basics....

Any rimfire can enter. But results will be organized by either .22, .22mag, or .17s ect..
Any target with 5 on it, without any other shots.
List the gun, ammo, rest ect... anything goes.
Average of all 5 groups must be under 1.5" ( makes it lil easier to play! )


LMK what you all think...
 
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