What I do NOT understand, and I have a degree in marketing, is why anyone would be afraid of tagging onto the MOST successful magnum in American history. The 7 "MM" Remington Magnum. No one is afraid of MM's. They are allergic to asinine duplications in performance.
Anyone for a New 7mm?
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What I do NOT understand, and I have a degree in marketing, is why anyone would be afraid of tagging onto the MOST successful magnum in American history. The 7 "MM" Remington Magnum. No one is afraid of MM's. They are allergic to asinine duplications in performance.
I'm guessing there's a reason you aren't working in marketing...especially in the U.S. Sounds like it's a good thing you found your true calling. Americans are allergic to most things metric...including new cartridges. It doesn't take a marketing degree to see that.
7mm 160 Grains at 3300 fps and no belt. This sounds great to me. They are certainly reinventing the wheel but this should still be a great cartridge.
Recoil in a lightweight hunting setup will be pretty brutal but the ballistics will be stellar. 180 or 168 Berger loaded up with a healthy dose of Retumbo should be a long range hammer.
Recoil in a lightweight hunting setup will be pretty brutal but the ballistics will be stellar. 180 or 168 Berger loaded up with a healthy dose of Retumbo should be a long range hammer.
Thank you for the personal insult and you have no idea what I do.
I will buy the 6mm. But the 7mm not a chance.
Actually I know exactly what you do and I apologize if you took it as a personal insult...that was not my intent......I was just pointing out the difference between Canadian and U.S. marketing and the U.S. hatred of most things metric. You mean 6.5 right or is there a Nosler 24 in the works? If I had to guess the Nosler 30 will be next.
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Got my interest. I have a .284 and it is a great cartridge out to a mile but it it is a struggle to get the 180s up to 2800 from a barrel that isnt friggin long. I was looking at the LRM, but like was said, brass is crazy expensive and only one source. Im intersted to see if this cartrige pans out. Going all the way up to the 7 RUM was just to much, but a shortened up version without all the hassle of forming makes a lot of sense. Plus it wont be the barrel burner the 26 Nosler is.
depending on which 8mm caliber it can 318 or 323.
in fact they re not 8mm but 7.92mm to be precise.
8x57js or IS is a 323
the first one 88 patrone is 318.
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The entire WSM family and the super short "magnum". I would be interested in four things before this would interest me.
Firstly how is the 26 Nozler doing for barrel life. One can only push so much power through a little hole before unacceptable barrel erosion happens. If one needs to factor in a replacement barrel every year, then the $4/brass cost seems a bargain.
Second, how are the sales of the 26 Nosler. Looking at the SAUM family, it isnt hard to look back in history to see whole families of calibers become obsolete.
Thirdly, are there any other manufacturers set to chamber the Nosler family of cartridges. Weatherby is about the only widely available...formerly proprietary family that made a big splash.
Lastly, how does performance stand beside existing 7 bores. The 7 Rum is already a barrel burner of epic reputation. The 7 Wea or Stw...were does the 28 Nosler sit??
since 1905 .. i think.
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And when you convert .323 " to mm's its 8.2mm
If one wants more than the 7 RM and doesn't figure he needs the 7 RUM there is always the 7mmX300 Win Mag. This wildcat has many really good features not the least of which is cheap brass available everywhere. It will equal the 7 STW ballistically and do it with less powder. I am not familiar with this 7mm LRM, but if one is bound to the 404 case then there is always the Dakota..........me personally I like and have hunted and harvested animals with the 7X300 Win and the 7X300 Wby and the Win seems to be the most for the least of all the big 7s I've played with. I also built and hunted with a 7X68 Imp 30 Deg, it is identical to the 300 Win case in capacity and one helluva lot more expensive and difficult to find.........no real advantage there.
Do we need this new big 7, probably not..........I sure as hell don't need it at 4 bucks a pop for brass and I have a 7 RUM and a 7 RM and several other smaller 7s, all of whom wear a buck a pop or less brass, which I find much less objectionable. This cartridge was designed for one purpose only along with the 26 Nosler and that is to make money for Nosler........PERIOD. There were no unfilled niches that these 2 just naturally snuggle into, they are superfluous in the extreme !!!
And really guys.........who gives a rat's ass what dia 8mm REALLY is in thou, we all know it as .323 and have since 1905...........man I get tired of these nit pickers......"7mm isn't REALLY .284 and 8mm isn't REALLY .323 and 6.5mm isn't REALLY .264 and 6mm isn't REALLY .243".........who gives a sh!t, for the purposes of ballistic discussion these are the accepted nominal diameters of the different metric calibers. You don't have to like it or agree with it, but it is what it is, so learn to live with it, or find a new hobby. Guess what 44 ain't .440 either it's .429 and 38 is really .357.............it ain't just the metric system that is confusing and filled with misnomers.
Do we need this new big 7, probably not..........I sure as hell don't need it at 4 bucks a pop for brass and I have a 7 RUM and a 7 RM and several other smaller 7s, all of whom wear a buck a pop or less brass, which I find much less objectionable. This cartridge was designed for one purpose only along with the 26 Nosler and that is to make money for Nosler........PERIOD. There were no unfilled niches that these 2 just naturally snuggle into, they are superfluous in the extreme !!!
And really guys.........who gives a rat's ass what dia 8mm REALLY is in thou, we all know it as .323 and have since 1905...........man I get tired of these nit pickers......"7mm isn't REALLY .284 and 8mm isn't REALLY .323 and 6.5mm isn't REALLY .264 and 6mm isn't REALLY .243".........who gives a sh!t, for the purposes of ballistic discussion these are the accepted nominal diameters of the different metric calibers. You don't have to like it or agree with it, but it is what it is, so learn to live with it, or find a new hobby. Guess what 44 ain't .440 either it's .429 and 38 is really .357.............it ain't just the metric system that is confusing and filled with misnomers.
