Anyone have experience selling a rifle through Rock Island Auction or similar

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I am looking to sell a Ruger No. 1 that I'm not using ... and recent proposed changes to C-21 indicate that it might be hard to get good $$ for this rifle in Canada. I propose to use an Export service (Irungun, etc) to export the rifle to the US, and then have it shipped to an auction site.

I wonder if anyone has had direct experience with doing this (export + auction), and if there are any pitfalls I should be aware of?

Note: I'm hoping for people to respond who might have direct experience with export + auction. I know that it's tempting to grumble about C-21 and the illogic of prohibiting a single-shot rifle, but that won't help with my question. I'm not using this rifle for a number of reasons (a very heavy McLennan barrel makes it impractical for hunting). I'm in the market for something more suitable for hiking long distances while hunting. I would sell the rifle in the absence of the C-21 change; the proposed amendment simply accelerates this process.

thank you,
Stephen
 
If you think your gun is on the list then it is a prohibited firearm which means you can not sell it it .
Before the nonsense gets to far along on this thread read the Ruger no 1 part again and again and again till you understand it .
 
struff55 said:
If you think your gun is on the list then it is a prohibited firearm which means you can not sell it it .
Before the nonsense gets to far along on this thread read the Ruger no 1 part again and again and again till you understand it .
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Thank you for your comments on C-21. These comments are not pertinent to my original question and contain several inaccuracies. This is not helpful.

Yes, the Ruger No. 1 is on the schedule in the proposed amendment to C-21, under section 96, 'Any firearm capable of discharging a projectile with a muzzle energy greater than 10 000 joules.' This isn't terribly logical - yes, I can rebarrel my Ruger No. 1 for a >10,000 J round, and the breach is capable of handling that load. It's already illegal to modify a firearm to convert it to a prohibited (e.g. cutting a pistol barrel before 105 mm), so this prohibition based on 'capability' is not logical.

That said, the Ruger No. 1 is in the list of prohibited firearms in the proposed amendment to C-21.

Your comment that 'then it is a prohibited firearm which means you can not sell it it' is also incorrect. At question is a proposed amendment to C-21. The act has not been passed, nor has it been proclaimed. Firearms that are listed in this amendment maintain their current status until the act is proclaimed, or until another legal vehicle (OIC, etc) prohibits these firearms.

If anyone has direct experience with exporting for auction, I would appreciate their insight.

Stephen
 
If you didn’t want comments on C-21 you could have just asked if anyone has exported guns to auction without other details. I suspect flat land fly fishing isn’t the only kind of fishing you do…
 
Exporter's fee.
Shipping fee to auction house.
Auction house's commission.

How much "good money" will be left?
Probably better to sell it in Canada.

It still hasn't been clarified if all No. 1 rifles could be prohibited under C21 or only those which exceed the energy ceiling.
 
Good points tiriaq, if it's a choice between destruction and export for peanuts, I'd rather not destroy if those are my only two choices.... what a waste of resources.
 
This is only worth it on very high end or rare items that don't have as good of a market up here.
I have used Rock Island before, to sell a Colt single action army, a original in spectacular shape, as well as a couple other firearms equally worth as much.
I was paid in American so that was a big deal.
Also the Colt in particular, was maybe going to get me in Canada between 5-8k if I could find that unicorn buyer up here.
I got $17000 usd, buy the time I paid the Auction house, export/import, shipping and everything I still got around $15000 USD
So I would say it was well worth it.
For a Ruger#1 no, not worth it at all.
You need to do your research, on the firearm, and the total cost of doing the shipping and such.
Ruger#1 will sell here, and sell quick if priced accordingly.
 
leeelmer said:
This is only worth it on very high end or rare items that don't have as good of a market up here.
I have used Rock Island before, to sell a Colt single action army, a original in spectacular shape, as well as a couple other firearms equally worth as much.
I was paid in American so that was a big deal.
Also the Colt in particular, was maybe going to get me in Canada between 5-8k if I could find that unicorn buyer up here.
I got $17000 usd, buy the time I paid the Auction house, export/import, shipping and everything I still got around $15000 USD
So I would say it was well worth it.
For a Ruger#1 no, not worth it at all.
You need to do your research, on the firearm, and the total cost of doing the shipping and such.
Ruger#1 will sell here, and sell quick if priced accordingly.
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Thank you - that answer is gold!

S.
 
Read the amendment again and again till you understand it . If you still think your number 1 is still on the list because it meets the criteria then just sell it to me for 600$ because you would be lucky if that is what you end up with selling the route you are thinking of
What caliber is it because as of now there is not a number 1 that is factory chambered that meet the criteria.
 
... I contacted Rock Island to sell my Canadian Contract 1911 . After all the Hoooha the charges and all . I decided not to send because i would be able to sell here for the same end result in $ . NOW, since the turd has caused these disruptions this maybe the only recourse if you want to realize a sale of your firearm if possible. Rock Island has a system that seemed quite flawless , just expensive. Try it out you may feel it works for you. Cheers.
 
struff55 said:
Read the amendment again and again till you understand it . If you still think your number 1 is still on the list because it meets the criteria then just sell it to me for 600$ because you would be lucky if that is what you end up with selling the route you are thinking of
What caliber is it because as of now there is not a number 1 that is factory chambered that meet the criteria.
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I'm satisfied with the explanation of Murray Smith at the discussion of the amendment to C-21 that the intention is to NOT ban Ruger No. 1, but just those with chambering that exceed 10,000 J. However, Smith's explanation is at odds with a straightforward reading of the text of the amendment - hopefully this gets cleaned up. I work with words for a living, so I am content with my reading of the text.

Best,
Stephen
 
struff55 said:
If you think your gun is on the list then it is a prohibited firearm which means you can not sell it it .
Before the nonsense gets to far along on this thread read the Ruger no 1 part again and again and again till you understand it .
Click to expand...


struff55 said:
Read the amendment again and again till you understand it . If you still think your number 1 is still on the list because it meets the criteria then just sell it to me for 600$ because you would be lucky if that is what you end up with selling the route you are thinking of
What caliber is it because as of now there is not a number 1 that is factory chambered that meet the criteria.
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What the #### is this???

It seems somebody has not read the amendment ... and does not understand it .... and does not understand that this amendment is not law yet ... and might never be law in it's current form because it so badly written/drafted.
 
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