anyone think they would buy a Canadian made M14 chasis system?

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My partner and I are looking into building aluminum stocks for the M14. We have the basic design idea down and all the equipment to produce them.

Here is what we're hoping to accomplish.

-Something significantly lighter then the current offerings.
-Something less bulky then the current offerings.
-integral optics mounting system that will allow the user to mount conventional scopes, red dots, whatever.
-Come in around the $700 price point.

I'd like to hear the ideas of other m14 owners out there. What do and don't you like about the currently available options?

Hit me. :D
 
yeah do that, just copy the exact same lines of the j allen stocks :D
 
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pretty tough to improve on what is currently offered by Sage and Troy and J. Allen Ent.. And if it could be done cheaper I am aware of 3 Canadian firearms/parts manufactures who have researched it an opted to not pursue it. If you and your partner have pockets that deep..... go for it man :D

I have blueprints drawn up for 3 diffrernt versions of an M14 chassis sytem stock that differs from sage and troy and have gotten no where. This is why i chose fiberglass as the medium to work with..... and even getting my 3 fiberglass designs to mass production has been a VERY VERY costly experience..... and i'm not quite there yet.

all that said, I wish you the best in this endeavor and i think more able canadians need to step up and grow our firearms industry here at home rather than relying on products from outside Canada. Good on ya and can't wait to see what you come up with
 
One thing I don't like about the chassis options (other than the troy which is hard to get up here) is that the stock mounting point is too low. The M14 is subject to muzzle climb already...I would prefer a stock that mounts in line with the barrel, not in line with the bottom of the trigger guard!

I nearly grabbed a Troy MCS not long ago...came that close but it's big money for something I don't really need right now and I am trying to spend money on school stuff only these days!

Anyway that is the main issue not addressed by the Sage and Marstar chassises'sis(s) or however you pluralize that word.

Of course lighter is better too!

The other thing that I am always thinking about is a full-length rail from the rear sight to the end of the chassis (again like the troy.) That cuts down on the amount of hardware to buy and a chassis-mounted rail is probably less subject to wandering zero issues than some of the other scope mount options.
 
I agree with everything you mentioned. If you can cut the bulk and weight, It would be 98% on target. I shudder the thought of doin' the 500m rundown at Service Condition matches with an EBR or Troy.
 
I'm fine with my USGI fibreglass stock. If I need to hang #### off my rifle, I'll screw some 1913 rail to the stock and call it a day.;)
 
The various McMillan M1A/M14 stocks are strong, light and lot less bulky than most of the already-mentioned offerings. Cons are the price, difficulty importing up here and the need to be bed the action.

A Canadian-made version of the McMillan's would sell like hotcakes, IMHO.
 
Have you seen the M14 chasis offered by shortrifles.dot.com They are a bullpup chasis. Drop in - no gunsmithing. Looks interesting. Mayby something like that. Would be different than anything we can get in Canada.
 
Might as well jump in before someone else does. Bullpup add on STOCKS are prohibited. They are only allowed if they are a part of the rifle like a Tavor.

I do like the idea of a lighter stock. I love the Troy but it is damn heavy.
 
I've got plans for a DO IT YOURSELF aluminum chassis ... and it will cost less than $ 100 for the materials., and should take less than a day to build.

I even have the aluminum square and rectangular tubing, and all the tools I need to build it.

Just need some time and some ambition ....
LAZerus2000
 
The various McMillan M1A/M14 stocks are strong, light and lot less bulky than most of the already-mentioned offerings. Cons are the price, difficulty importing up here and the need to be bed the action.

A Canadian-made version of the McMillan's would sell like hotcakes, IMHO.


tell me about it .. i'm having a pretty hard time dealing with the demand for the few i custom m14 stocks that i have made and spread around on cgn and elsewhere. The answer to mcmillan is already here and yer lookin at him.... but.... i am miles and miles away from thier level of production........ but i'm workin on it. ;)


a few buddies of mine were sittin around tonite discussing this thread and we all brought up various reasons why it would hard to sacrifice weight no matter what configuration and shape the stock was made. Heat transfer in aluminum is working against the idea of having a rigid chassis system lighter than what is availlable. At least that was our thought. BUT we all agreed that a canadian offering with some originality to it , differing from the sage and troy design would be a very cool thing
 
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I know the use to which I put my firearms.
I think the LKF is the primary feature these stocks have going for them.
If this is the basis for a successful manufaturing endeavor, have at it.
From the photos being posted by proud owners, there are obviously many folks who are prepared to put serious money into dressup.
Canadian made is nice, keeps money at home.
Have fun with it - that's what it is all about.
 
I've got plans for a DO IT YOURSELF aluminum chassis ... and it will cost less than $ 100 for the materials., and should take less than a day to build.

I even have the aluminum square and rectangular tubing, and all the tools I need to build it.

Just need some time and some ambition ....
LAZerus2000

some more info please laz
 
So 45ACpacking care to share some of your ideas? We have access to pretty well every type of machine inhouse and according to our initial analysis should have no problem getting this done.
 
The only problem I see is.... we are all cheap bastards.
That is why we snatched up all those M305s. They were $400!!!

How many of us will want to pay almost double just to put it in a stock.
95% of us would spend the $120ish? for a walnut or the $200 for a nice fiberglass.
But $700+... you might have a small customer base.

But,.. if you can do it, why not :)
 
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