Anyone watch Trophy on CNN

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Did anyone watch the CNN movie "Trophy"? I tuned in, figuring it was going to be anti-hunting garbage, but it was actually quite good. It really explored the link between hunting and species survival. And even the segments that showed anti-hunting protesters made them look like morons. Overall, it was an amazingly objective portrayal. I don't think it will get many non-hunters to start hunting - some of the footage was pretty direct, but at least I think a lot of people will know that hunting and the money it brings us what keeps some species alive.
 
They said that they went on to it to show that hunting was wrong but after doing some research they realized there was a place for it.
 
They said that they went on to it to show that hunting was wrong but after doing some research they realized there was a place for it.

It's what I expected, but in the end, they even made the anti hunters look like retards (glad to admit that the ones they showed were exactly that.) I just hope the non-hunters that watched it got the message.
 
I know its going to cause a lot of controversy here but the guy who shot the lion should be ashamed to call himself a hunter.
No way! then he crys like some child. I actually wondered about his mental stability.
They shot several dozen gazelle to use as bait for this guy and then determined that a lion was coming to one site, so they set him up in a tree to shoot the lion.
I actually feel sorry for these guys who put out the big bucks on these canned hunts.
They have no idea and as far as I'm concerned give real hunters a bad rep.
I have no idea how anyone could see this in a positive light
 
I know its going to cause a lot of controversy here but the guy who shot the lion should be ashamed to call himself a hunter.
No way! then he crys like some child. I actually wondered about his mental stability.
They shot several dozen gazelle to use as bait for this guy and then determined that a lion was coming to one site, so they set him up in a tree to shoot the lion.
I actually feel sorry for these guys who put out the big bucks on these canned hunts.
They have no idea and as far as I'm concerned give real hunters a bad rep.
I have no idea how anyone could see this in a positive light

How is baiting a lion a "canned" hunt? Please explain.

Is hunting deer over an alfalfa field a canned hunt? Geese on a grain field?
 
I know its going to cause a lot of controversy here but the guy who shot the lion should be ashamed to call himself a hunter.
No way! then he crys like some child. I actually wondered about his mental stability.
They shot several dozen gazelle to use as bait for this guy and then determined that a lion was coming to one site, so they set him up in a tree to shoot the lion.
I actually feel sorry for these guys who put out the big bucks on these canned hunts.
They have no idea and as far as I'm concerned give real hunters a bad rep.
I have no idea how anyone could see this in a positive light

I really enjoyed the episode but, like you, thought this guy was a little unbalanced. By the end of it it was clear his primary motivation to trophy hunt was due to some quasi psycho reason to please his deceased father. Then his biblical spiel that man has authority and control over animals seemed a little facked up. At least the film balanced him out with the vegan anti-woman on the street corner.

The most poignant point of the episode was when one of breeders/farmers was being interviewed and was asked about his bonds, relationships, and love for the animals that were destined to be killed and he emotionally kinda lost it. That moment really highlighted how both sides at the ends of each spectrum are more alike than not.
 
I know its going to cause a lot of controversy here but the guy who shot the lion should be ashamed to call himself a hunter.
No way! then he crys like some child. I actually wondered about his mental stability.
They shot several dozen gazelle to use as bait for this guy and then determined that a lion was coming to one site, so they set him up in a tree to shoot the lion.
I actually feel sorry for these guys who put out the big bucks on these canned hunts.
They have no idea and as far as I'm concerned give real hunters a bad rep.
I have no idea how anyone could see this in a positive light

I agree^^^^^
The only thing I learned for sure is that it not appear to require much skill to bag an African trophy but it does take a bit of $$money$$

I did not appreciate the hunter claiming the Bible and God giving humanity dominion over animals mean one and the same as a God given right to trophy hunting.

It was disgusting the amount of animals killed for bait and the crock shot in the pool just to impress the chick that was holding the mighty hunter's beer.

I think that the old rhino rancher horn farmer claiming he was cutting horns and breeding to prevent this magnificent animal from becoming extinct was making a play to make sale of rhino horn legal and harvest a $$fortune$$. It just happened that that the horn harvester had millions in stored horns waiting for the court ruling.

I thought it was disgusting how the so called authorities were more interested in protecting a dangerous lion than protecting the poor people and their small herds of animals that they depended on for life.

I wonder where all the money that these rich hunters pay actually ends up.
 
How is baiting a lion a "canned" hunt? Please explain.

Is hunting deer over an alfalfa field a canned hunt? Geese on a grain field?

I suppose the difference for me is the fact that this guys hunt consisted of climbing into his tree and pulling the trigger.
Everything was done for him. I don't consider him a hunter.
I view animals as sentient beings and should be treated with respect. Shooting dozens of gazelle for bait is just wrong.
I have no problems with shooting say coyote wolf or bear off an existing kill or baiting.
Perhaps "canned"was not the right word but I see a lot of difference between this and someone hunting deer over an alfafa field.
For me the hunt is the thing, just shooting something is easy.
 
But I think the overall message of the film was that without "hunting", many species are doomed. If something has value, people will look after it. If it has no value, they won't. For people living in the huts and villages we saw, conservation and wildlife survival means crap. Their own survival is at stake. If an elephant eats or tramples their harvest, unless they can make up that loss by keeping that elephant alive, they will kill it. And if they can make $50 selling ivory, they'll do it, unless they can make $100 by not selling it. Ideals and principles to amount to much when you're starving.

These game ranches might be the only way to buy some of these species enough time to breed enough of them to re-introduce into the wild.
 
I suppose the difference for me is the fact that this guys hunt consisted of climbing into his tree and pulling the trigger.
Everything was done for him. I don't consider him a hunter.
I view animals as sentient beings and should be treated with respect. Shooting dozens of gazelle for bait is just wrong.
I have no problems with shooting say coyote wolf or bear off an existing kill or baiting.
Perhaps "canned"was not the right word but I see a lot of difference between this and someone hunting deer over an alfafa field.
For me the hunt is the thing, just shooting something is easy.

I think you're of the erroneous assumption that just because a lion or leopard is hitting a bait, that in turn means he'll be there at a given time every night and all you have to do is show up. Nothing can be further from the truth, there is no more guarantee in a baited hunt than there is of the big whitetail people have been trying to pattern on their game cam coming into an alfalfa field.
Trappers kill beaver to use the meat for bait. Beaver pelts are pretty much worthless and likely not worth skinning, with many places actually having a bounty on them. Same idea, unless the life of a gazelle is somehow worth more than a beaver..
 
I suppose the difference for me is the fact that this guys hunt consisted of climbing into his tree and pulling the trigger.
Everything was done for him. I don't consider him a hunter.
I view animals as sentient beings and should be treated with respect. Shooting dozens of gazelle for bait is just wrong.
I have no problems with shooting say coyote wolf or bear off an existing kill or baiting.
Perhaps "canned"was not the right word but I see a lot of difference between this and someone hunting deer over an alfafa field.
For me the hunt is the thing, just shooting something is easy.

What's the difference between shooting coyotes off an existing kill and shooting a lion.

Disney?
 
These game ranches might be the only way to buy some of these species enough time to breed enough of them to re-introduce into the wild.

I have never heard that it was a plan to re-introduce the bred animals into the wild, but it was their plan to keep the game on ranches and preserves. They had better get a handle on the poaching or it will mean nothing. If and when they reintroduce to the wild I hope they do not introduce something like an African version of CWD.
 
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