Appropriate Cost for IPSC Lvl 3 Match

What do you expect to pay for a 200 roundLvl 3 Match

  • $30

    Votes: 10 11.1%

  • $40

    Votes: 3 3.3%

  • $50

    Votes: 16 17.8%

  • $60

    Votes: 7 7.8%

  • $70

    Votes: 6 6.7%

  • $80

    Votes: 12 13.3%

  • $90

    Votes: 5 5.6%

  • $100

    Votes: 19 21.1%

  • $110

    Votes: 1 1.1%

  • More

    Votes: 11 12.2%
  • Total voters
    90
7.62mm said:
Want to get an idea of what people think is an appropriate fee for a 200 round Lvl 3 Match.

Also, with your chosen "Price" what do you expect to get for that fee. Lunch, Prizes, Plaques, Certificates etc....
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Level 3 I expect to pay more but I also expect the Works as far as the event goes.

Food, trophies, door prizes, draws...the Works :)

John
 
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A 200 round level III is pretty small in my books. We usually have 250 round level II's, our level III this year (Manitoba Provincials) was 346 rounds(17 stages) and we charged $90, included a excellent banquet, over $3500 in prizes(some of the draws we also sold tickets on), and nicer than regular match trophies as well as presidents medals. Had 58 competitors and were still able to turn in about $800 to IPSC Mb after all extra props, targets, etc, were paid for. Our level II's run $25 (usually 35-40 competitors)and we give plaques instead of trophies and still end up ahead after paying for targets, plaques, etc. We have a level I every monday night(3 stages) and its $5 a person, no trophies, more like practice than anything and the proceeds go to our windup at the end of the year for prizes.
 
Just for some perspective.

The Nationals this year was 287 rounds

Cost $225 with shirt and Banquet

We will say, $150 for the match minus shirt and banquet


I went to a lvl 4 match this year:

300 rounds.....cost was $360 American i believe, shirt was extra

Lunch and dinner included over 4 days, no prizes other than plaques and medals
 
$50,....supper included (barbecue or something like a $12 meal). Plaques and class awards. Shirt maybe.
 
well the way i look at it is a basic match usually costs less then $50 a shooter to put on. for a level 3 that is a true shoot them as you see them, i would consider double this amount due to the extra props that have to be built to accomplish this. Now add $10 a day for lunch and $20 for supper. i prefer match shirts to be an option as i fall into the category that i have way to many match shirts and prefer to buy ones that i like the look of and mean something to me. i would also except a level 3 to be at least 12 stages so in the 240 to 250 round area. As well i would except either a 100% prize table or a decent match gift.
 
I guess the question is: what is the purpose of putting up the match?
Is it mainly to generate revenue, or to put up a quality match and maybe return a small profit to hosting club?
I did not vote in the poll, as I myself in lucky situation where $30 or $110 does not make any difference to me, and I decide whether I will attend certain match based on many other criteria beside the price.

What's important for me is how smooth the match is running, how soon results are available, and it's always nice to get an award of some kind. It's always nice to have drinks and food available, free or for purchase (again not much difference to me).
 
iouri said:
Is it mainly to generate revenue, or to put up a quality match and maybe return a small profit to hosting club?
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Well, peoples ideas of what a small profit is, are going to differ wildly!

My thoughts are, do people want bigger and better matches? If so, they are going to have to accept that clubs hosting events need to make a profit, just like any other business, to build more props, build bigger facilities, build bigger and more ranges etc..

You need all these things to put on a quality match, no? I mean, I am fairly new to this whole game, and I can say, I have certainly put a lot of my time, and own money, on my own free will, (and I know I am certainly not the only one) into making our matches bigger and better, and just generally helping out.........I think that is going to change in the future!

As we can see, some people answers to the poll are completely out of touch with reality......basically they want the hosting club to pay for some of their hobby....unreal! Or they truly have no idea of what it costs to put on a LVL 3 match!
 
7.62mm said:
My thoughts are, do people want bigger and better matches? If so, they are going to have to accept that clubs hosting events need to make a profit, just like any other business, to build more props, build bigger facilities, build bigger and more ranges etc..
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I think this is what confuses most people...calling it "profit"

If you invest the proceeds of the match...back into the club...there is no profit (which is generally the case)

What people need to remember is...when we attend a match, most of us are guests of that host club. That means we are taking a good part of that facility away from the people that pay annual memberships. We should be prepared to pay a premium for that privilege.

Wow...lotta "p" s in this post. Hey...there's another one...
 
I think some matches are just for profit only and I have no problems with that since I am the one who chooses the match.
I am notso big on recomended IPSC ratio of 1-2-3 and prefer USPSA type of system, where majority os stages are long.
As for cost, if organizer can build props, have lots of steel and other atractive targets, then why not charge more?
My question is bit different, why some guys put a Level III at $90 (summer slam) and can make a profit and others for less rounds charge $225?

EESA Level III is IMO priced right.

Peter
 
There are clubs that I think, use IPSC matches simply to pad their bank accounts. You can tell by the unimaginative stages and useless props. Yet they charge a premium.
I'd say no more than $150 and even that is stretching it. Better be two good days of shooting, good trophies, ####ing awesome stages, and a good prize table. I disagree with PH on the prize table distribution though. I prefer random draws for prizes, at least the big ones. Never been a fan of giving the best prize to the top finisher. Unless its cash. If we had money matched I'd be all for it being done by finish.
Hmm maybe we should push for money matches..........
 
PH Racing said:
$150 and a proper prize table. Order of finish, no "door" prizes.
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I have to disagree with you on the 'no "door prizes" ' thing. I like the random draw.

The winners already get their trophies - along with the admiration and envy of their peers :D - and the door prize concept gives everyone a shot at winning some cool stuff to take home. At this years BC Provs they gave away 4 Shadows along with a ton of other swag. I didn't draw anything but it was still fun.

John
 
Well,.. $50 is what I have based on matches I have been to locally. I go to shoot. It is nice to get prizes,...but I go to shoot. They have a lot of good people who volunteer, and there are times when the stages are built using existing range prop's and property. I know how much plaques cost, and medals. The clubs I go to have other matches (level 1 and level2) that use existing stages and ranges to create new stages. They charge anywhere from $5 to $20. Usually 6 to 10 stages= 110-200rds. I plan on having a match at one of the clubs I belong to early next season. It may cost $20-$30 depending on if I give out class awards, and will have 9 stages, 180-200rds. Limited prizes. I had a good turnout this year for the NB Ammo match, and managed to give out plaques, a few medals, some projectiles, primers, and ammo. The difference is I had lower numbers, and would set a limit of 40 shooters. I had great help from my club and local shooters. I made a measly $120 for the club, but paid everything else. It was a way for me to get my product out, and also do my part to put on matches. Everyone commented on the match, and had a great time.
 
I didn't vote because I don't care how much a match costs, so long as I feel I'm getting my moneys' worth out of it, I'll pay it. It likely is one of the smaller costs of the price to attend the match anyway.

I come to shoot and see how I rank against the best. Nice Plaques are just fine with me, but go deep with them and recognize categories too.

Spend the rest of the income on the match (Box lunch included is nice, water at stages good, tents for shelter, etc.) the ranges (Nice Props & Targetry!) and the banquet, some long term investment in the club is reasonable.

Stop bothering with prize tables and door prizes. I already have everything I need to play the game. If there's something I want - I'll pick it and buy it, and selling whatever I win is a PITA. The major effort (and it's big) put into prizes is better invested in something to do with the match. It's supposed to be a match, not a gunshop.
 
it's not as simple as how much a matdch fee for leve III should be, as there are variables that make difference...and I do think rnd. count should be one of them.
the poll should be more like 50-60 or 70-80 or 90-100 etc... so you don't get 8 different poll options...

eg.. assuming all equal in sense of all level III's have cool stages and cool props, swingers etc... which cost $$ to buy or build and time and sweat....

I'd say fees should be:

under 200 rnds... $ 60 - 100
approx. 250 rnds $ 75 - $115
approx. 300 rnds $ 90 - $125
approx. 350 + rnds $ 100 - $150

all above depending on: prizes, or charity donation, # of shooters, type of props ? simple or complicated to build, other....

Obviously, there are these and other variable that will be good reason for the lower or higher range....that's up to MD to figure out...more rounds, equals more material and labour, etc... # shooters..if high # of them, maybe room to keep price down, if fewer, than more per to cover expenses..or whatever... you get the gist of my suggestion...

The clubs do need to make money for their clubs as well....not just break even or lose money.....
 
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