Gunnerlove
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AR-15 Blemish?
- Thread starter Mr.Constantine
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84wh1
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I mean really it's your money and your rifle.....do as you want to it. If it were me who dropped big cash on a knights, I would prob be a little irritated at the "blemish" but not enough that I would return it to the seller. Consider it a factory made character mark.
I'd still try and grind the retailer for a box of match ammo. at the least, but hey that's me (and what about the felt marker mark?)
Regardless it's yours to do with as you choose, just be sure you mention it now, so you can complain about it later if necessary.
Cheers D
Regardless it's yours to do with as you choose, just be sure you mention it now, so you can complain about it later if necessary.
Cheers D
Most important is reliability and performance. I would say the same for a Ferrari. But looks matters too. Would you pay full price for a Ferrari that had a huge scratch on it? Probably not. Well you paid Ferrari prices for the Ferrari of the AR world.
Ultimately the choice is yours, but you came here for our thoughts. That's my though. I would send it back. Rifles get scratched up. It adds character. But it means something when you do it. It doesn't add character when it comes from the factory like that
Ultimately the choice is yours, but you came here for our thoughts. That's my though. I would send it back. Rifles get scratched up. It adds character. But it means something when you do it. It doesn't add character when it comes from the factory like that
- Location
- East ontario
That's about the most dumb thing I see you post, and there has been lots to compare it too over the years...
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- East ontario
This forum gets funnier every year.
If you bought a KAC for a safe queen or to fondle in front of the mirror or to make your range buddies jealous*, I can see how this sort of thing would be an issue. If you bought it to shoot and appreciate for its unquestionable reliability, durability, and pedigree then I don't think it would be a problem.
Paging Kevin B....
Kevin has not worked for kac for almost 3 years now
Mr.Constantine
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- Vancouver, B.C
So little update about this whole issue. Like I said in an earlier post in the end I had decided to keep the rifle. While not happy about the blemish it was not the end of the world nor worth the time and hassle of returning. Then Sunday range day comes. Got the sr-15 out, scopes on ready to be zeroed. After 10 shots I notice the trigger is suddenly terrible and wont break clean. Upon inspection of the rifle I noticed the trigger pin had walked out (not completely but close, enough it stopped the trigger from functioning) during firing of only 10 shots. Like I have also mentioned I am new to the AR platform so I called one of the range officers over for assistance. The range officer inspected the trigger and told me that it had been assembled incorrectly. Now the issue was minor in the fact that all that was needed to remedy this problem was to move the spring slightly over into its groove (which he offered to do) and this would remedy it but I am still quite surprised this slipped Knight's inspections. I told him it was alright and at this point I did not want to do anything to or use the rifle until I could bring this up with the retailer & knights.
Fast forward to today. I'll admit I am not the most patient of people and this whole experience has left me a little anxious. While waiting to see what the retailer had to say I decided to go ahead and contact Knights my self. I called Knights and ended up speaking to one of the sales staff. We spoke briefly and emailed a couple times. I have to say knights did a great job of getting back to me promptly. To my disappointment at no point did Knights apologize for any of the issues with the trigger or the blemish. They acknowledged the trigger was shipped in an incorrect configuration and basically told me what the range officer had said in order to fix it. They also acknowledged the blemish but said that "many guns" will have some type of blemish and further went to tell me that they have "moving parts, handled many times, packing, shipping and test fired" I only assume this is what they attribute to the blemish. The last email the sender sounded quite annoyed with my line of questioning (Albeit he still told me to contact them if I had further questions). And that's fair if I'm being over zealous and crazy about this, but I don't feel I am. He also told me the mark on the front of the receiver was a normal mark and was part of the manufacturing process. (I'll post the photo)
So please tell me, am I being unreasonable about this? Should I continue to pursue this? I do not enjoy complaining, but I have owned many firearms from varying price ranges this being the most expensive I've purchased, and by far this had come in the worse condition. I guess I just felt that Knights name meant quality. And I don't doubt that they make quality, I just don't feel like I received that quality. I would also like to add I don't blame One Shot for these issue's. And I appreciate their help in solving this matter. Cheers
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Fast forward to today. I'll admit I am not the most patient of people and this whole experience has left me a little anxious. While waiting to see what the retailer had to say I decided to go ahead and contact Knights my self. I called Knights and ended up speaking to one of the sales staff. We spoke briefly and emailed a couple times. I have to say knights did a great job of getting back to me promptly. To my disappointment at no point did Knights apologize for any of the issues with the trigger or the blemish. They acknowledged the trigger was shipped in an incorrect configuration and basically told me what the range officer had said in order to fix it. They also acknowledged the blemish but said that "many guns" will have some type of blemish and further went to tell me that they have "moving parts, handled many times, packing, shipping and test fired" I only assume this is what they attribute to the blemish. The last email the sender sounded quite annoyed with my line of questioning (Albeit he still told me to contact them if I had further questions). And that's fair if I'm being over zealous and crazy about this, but I don't feel I am. He also told me the mark on the front of the receiver was a normal mark and was part of the manufacturing process. (I'll post the photo)
So please tell me, am I being unreasonable about this? Should I continue to pursue this? I do not enjoy complaining, but I have owned many firearms from varying price ranges this being the most expensive I've purchased, and by far this had come in the worse condition. I guess I just felt that Knights name meant quality. And I don't doubt that they make quality, I just don't feel like I received that quality. I would also like to add I don't blame One Shot for these issue's. And I appreciate their help in solving this matter. Cheers
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Runningfool
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- SW Ontario
You're going to get two types of advice here, just like you already have. One side is going to say, "You paid a premium, you should expect perfect cosmetics". Insert Ferrari analogy here. Then you will get others who will say, "Its a battle rifle, just shoot it!" Insert faberge egg analogy here. Ultimately what you should do comes down to what YOUR expectations of KAC are. Coming here and asking what you should do is about as helpful as asking what kind of ice cream you should get.
I know badboybeeson discounted Suputin's comment but I think Suputin is correct....manufacturers like KAC or Colt Canada don't lose a whole lot of sleep over a guy like you or me wringing our hands over a blemish on our one-way-range gun. Companies like that are in the business of making fighting guns not safe/range queens, despite the fact that many end up as the later.
The trigger issue, well that is another story. I guess there are two lessons here: 1) every manufacturer has the occasional lapse and stuff gets out the door that never should and 2) it's 2016, manicures are not just for the ladies.
I know badboybeeson discounted Suputin's comment but I think Suputin is correct....manufacturers like KAC or Colt Canada don't lose a whole lot of sleep over a guy like you or me wringing our hands over a blemish on our one-way-range gun. Companies like that are in the business of making fighting guns not safe/range queens, despite the fact that many end up as the later.
The trigger issue, well that is another story. I guess there are two lessons here: 1) every manufacturer has the occasional lapse and stuff gets out the door that never should and 2) it's 2016, manicures are not just for the ladies.
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Mr.Constantine
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Ah well screw it I guess. Maybe I over react and am being too sensitive about the whole thing. I'm just going to consider this resolved it's not worth the trouble of worrying about something like this. I'll get the trigger working properly and just enjoy the rifle. Thanks to everyone involved for the help.
That's a fair comment however a fair chunk of change was spent, so it would be nice if the rifle came in a flawless condition to start with.
After that point well it's up to the individual how hard they are on what is considered by many to be a just a tool; albeit an expensive one in this case.
To the OP just get it running well and shoot it lots and it'll all be behind you. As I'm sure this is far from a big life issue for you like some would believe.
Cheers D
its a kac, the trigger not working, thats facking unacceptable, its a rifle meant for serious business, trigger not working means the serious business just got dealt to you
blemishes, scratches, well thats disapointing as well
i bought a 3500$ AR once, guess what! it was facking crap! it blew up in my face! got reimbursed, bought a colt. Guess what! its facking awesome. life lesson right there...
blemishes, scratches, well thats disapointing as well
i bought a 3500$ AR once, guess what! it was facking crap! it blew up in my face! got reimbursed, bought a colt. Guess what! its facking awesome. life lesson right there...
Runningfool
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- SW Ontario
You facking 12 years old or just drunk?
I wouldn't compare that $3500 crap AR to a KAC. I saw your thread on that rifle and I agree your experience with that certain brand was unacceptable.
but the user here is experiencing some very minor cosmetic issues which will likely wear away. And the trigger issue was what? a 5 minute job to fix? Nothing was damaged. The rifle didn't blow up in his face.
But like Runningfool said it is friday night some of us, or atleast myself have had some drinks so everything seems a little worse than it really is.
To be blunt yes I would say you are being unreasonable. There is nothing wrong with your rifle. The white mark is very minor and will eventually wear off as it's over top the anodizing. It was likely bumped against a pole or table with white paint while being test fired.
The small line or sharpie mark as you said Is not a blemish. Seriously it looks extremely minor and I could find a similar "blemish" on any of my AR-15's that I've purchased.
AR-15's are not safe queens. Get out and run it hard. That's what KAC gear is designed to do.
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