AR-180b
- Thread starter dudley2112
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I've been thinking of getting one made for mine sometime down the road. Right I'm saving my monthly bonuses from work for a good scope and stock for my M-14. I'll keep my mind open about this once I have some spare cash.
Feel free to post your groups for your XCR or your SKS.
Here is a typical group with chec surplus at 50 yards. I get approximately 4 MOA with irons.
I have shot slightly tighter groups with the sks with cast boolits beagled mold a lot of work for a marginal improvement in performance.
Here is a little bit of reality on what is achievable with cheap 223 ammo.
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu8.htm
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Well aren't you just the hero. some guys are pulling the same grouping with a cooey 22 at 100 yards too. I sure can't do it. Maybe we're not the greatest shots in the would like you are.
All the guy was saying that his rifle was good enough in his hands is all. nothing wrong with an average group of 3 inchs at 100 yards with the iron site.
gee maybe if I buy an overpriced XCR I can be a hero too.
Quality non-restricted made-in-Canada "black rifle" using stanag magazines = ~2000$
Oh, and if you like money, everyone and their dog wants a NR 9x19 carbine (or 7.62x25).
7.62x25 or 10mm for me
Well aren't you just the hero. some guys are pulling the same grouping with a cooey 22 at 100 yards too. I sure can't do it. Maybe we're not the greatest shots in the would like you are.
All the guy was saying that his rifle was good enough in his hands is all. nothing wrong with an average group of 3 inchs at 100 yards with the iron site.
gee maybe if I buy an overpriced XCR I can be a hero too.
My post has nothing to do with the shooter or my shooting ability. It was more about the accuracy of an 180b. make it personal if u want .
It's not a sniper rifle, it was never intended to be.
I bet you complain Lada's aren't fast enough for Formula 1.
To be honest Blupul that is not how you came across. Be careful on the internet as typing doesn't always get across your true meaning. I am not an iron sight user and that grouping is decent indeed. FOr some that shoots 100 or 200 yards with irons regularly that should be a 200 yard grouping in the wind for them. I can ring a gong at 200 yards with my black powder hawken open sights but not with my other rifles. It is the shooter and the gun most of the time.
Tikkaboy said
I own one and have had it for 1 year now. I love it! Great shooter non-rest. goodness.Bought the 10round mags changed the fore stock. Some people say it's not that accurate pfft! I have no problems hitting my targets at 100 yds open sights. Bought mine off this board from another CGN user.
I was simply confirming that yes it is capable of hitting a 100 yard target.
Now for my completely biased opinion. If the AR-180B was the top selling carbine in the states then it would not have been discontinued.
So it was not a top seller in the states. It cost as much as an AR is made of plastic, lacks the modularity of the AR and is generally agreed that it is slightly less accurate than an AR-15. Hey what`s not to like.
But that is in the states and they do not have to go through the BS that we do for a restricted. Here you need to pass two courses get a special permit to get an AR. Must keep the gun trigger locked and locked in a cabinet or keep it in safe. When you want to take it out you are only allowed to go directly to and from the approved range which you have a transport permit for. From what I am hearing from Quebec they are delaying transfers for restricted rifles for months.
Compare this to the non restricted AR-180 b the you need a regular pal and you must keep the gun unloaded or only loaded where it is legal to shoot it.
Hmm if the states had the same rules as us then the AR 180b would probably still be in production. This is confirmed here in that these 1000 dollar rifles are now selling for around 1300 used.
Now if a Canadian is looking for a non restricted rifle that takes AR 10 round mags here are their options.
Remington 7615 you just can`t be tactical tim with that. It is a pump.
XCR expensive and hard to find
tavor expensive and impossible to find
AR180B least expensive and not too difficult to find.
So the AR180B is the most accessible non restricted black rifle that accepts AR Mags. Now with my earth shattering opinion. It is a not a bad carbine considering our very limited options.
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