I've run all kinds of red dot/HWS sights over the years, mainly on AR platforms. I'm still, hands-down, a big fan of the EoTech HWS's...and have NEVER had any issues with them whatsoever (but I'm not using them in MIL/life and death situations either). I also was a big fan of my Aimpoint CompM4, which I eventually sold due to it's size/mass/bulk...and ultimately it was sitting in the safe instead of seeing use. I've owned/used Aimpoint T2's but sold them as well...simply due to the fact that I find their FOV less than ideal, even shooting both eyes open...it is just a personal preference thing. I much prefer/am used to the EoTech sight picture and prefer that FOV (one and two-eyes open), and as such I have pretty much trimmed the stable down to only include/only run EoTechs these days. Aim point does make quality kit...it just boils down to personal preference I think. I've had the chance to use a couple of the new Sig Electro Optics RDS type units as well...especially at their price point. Quality glass, crisp reticles, and simple controls...I'd choose a Sig unit over a Vortex for sure.
AR optic- Aimpoint vs the world?
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In response to some other posts in this thread...FOV may be a non-issue for you individually from optic to optic with both eyes open, and I do get/understand what you are saying...but personal preference still very much does weigh into the conversation/decision making procedure. If you can, shoot as many different options as you can before buying and make your purchase decision based on what you see/like/feels most intuitive and user-friendly.
I've used the 4MOA T1 on a 12.5"bbl to bang on a Minute of Torso gong at 500m all day. It made it easier to calculate holdover. (4 diameters at 3000' ASL temp 21°C winds neg.)
-S.
I use the 3.5MOA RMR as my CQB/ transition sight with a sight offset of about 4.5". If you give it height, it's an excellent tool for Heads Up Gunfighting. If you go co-witness or less, you may feel "crowded in the cockpit ", so plan for a lower third co-witness if you're going to run it.
-S.
I appreciate all the responses, guys!
Right now I'm leaning toward the RMR because it's small, light, and I can run it in either my AR or glock. The MRO would be the front runner if it weren't for my G19, but having one optic I could use for either gun is pretty tempting.
I have a DDMK18 upper for CQB/heads up stuff, and a DDM4V5 if I want to do longer range shooting. I'm thinking a 2MOA dot should be fine for my 10.5" upper and pistol.
Right now I'm leaning toward the RMR because it's small, light, and I can run it in either my AR or glock. The MRO would be the front runner if it weren't for my G19, but having one optic I could use for either gun is pretty tempting.
I have a DDMK18 upper for CQB/heads up stuff, and a DDM4V5 if I want to do longer range shooting. I'm thinking a 2MOA dot should be fine for my 10.5" upper and pistol.
I just sent my EoTech back for a refund today, never had an issue with it but I'll be getting more back than I paid and want a new scope for my varmint rifle so the money will almost cover that.
I have an Aimpoint PRO on one of my rifles, did a CQB 2 day course with it last summer and it was great. I would lean towards it but if light weight is a factor a T1 might be a better option.
I would forget about your prerequisite that it cowitness with your BUIS. That stands for Back Up Iron Sight and there is no reason at all to use them with a quality dot sight. They just clutter the image and slow you down.
I have an Aimpoint PRO on one of my rifles, did a CQB 2 day course with it last summer and it was great. I would lean towards it but if light weight is a factor a T1 might be a better option.
I would forget about your prerequisite that it cowitness with your BUIS. That stands for Back Up Iron Sight and there is no reason at all to use them with a quality dot sight. They just clutter the image and slow you down.
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I like my MRO. If you're waiting for version 2 you are going to be waiting for a while.
Honestly, I haven't noticed any real difference in FOV between my eotech and H1 in terms of how forgiving it is of your head position behind the optic. I've shot it from some pretty goofy positions already, and I've yet to be unable to find the dot.
that is called parallax...and Eotechs are parallax free meaning you could see the circle-dot from any angle
i have the MRO and am quite happy with it...although do note that it has some parallax error..per Trijicon's website:
"Like all reflex-style optics, the Trijicon MRO[SUP]®[/SUP] is parallax-free when the dot and target are reasonably well centered in the optic's field-of-view, but when the reticle and target are substantially off-axis, there will be some parallax. The off-axis parallax performance of the MRO[SUP]®[/SUP] meets or exceeds that of other reflex sights of similar size."
i was just doing research on this topic...reflex sights use LEDs and "project" the dot forward while holographic sights (like Eotech) use lasers...the advantage of reflex is that it works at any distance...while being parallax free is the advantage of holographic
my personal preference (and i am by no means an expert) is to use holographic on shotguns and red dot on AR15s
Thermal drift is ONE of THREE admitted problems with all EOTECH weapon sights. The "thermal drift" can occur at ANY temperature but is most extreme at the extreme (now unconfirmed/fraudulent) temperature ranges that were listed. It has also been proven that the sight may or may not return to zero when the sight returns to ambient or the temp in which it was zeroed. Whether you have experienced a problem or not does not make the realities of said problems any less real. Their sights are defective, EOTECH lied for nearly a decade and yet they continue to sell garbage.
http://www.eotechlawsuit.com/
The other issues include inconsistent adjustment values, battery drain when off, and battery contact failure causing the sight to turn off. EOTECH no longer lists the adjustments as 0.5MOA but as "approximately 0.5 MOA". There is also no operating temperature range listed nor do they claim their sights are parallax free.
EOTECH sights are NOT parallax free, read above(the link).
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