AR15 Lubrication and cleaning thread
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I use Mobil1, it does not break down with heat or gel up in extreme cold and is a heck of a lot easier to clean off than grease. I use CLP to clean, but for lubricating all of my firearms Mobil1 seams to be my go to lubricant.
I also follow the above lubrication diagram.
I also follow the above lubrication diagram.
To clean and lube my guns i use SLiP2000 products
EWL Extreme weapons lubricant
EWG Extreme weapons grease
Copper cutter
All condition lubricant
love the products, work great. And wont give me cancer.
slip2000 dot com
a cut and paste from their site about temps on the all condition
Extreme Hot and Cold Conditions
Slip 2000 Gun Lubricant has a temperature range of -110 degrees F to a +1250 degrees F so it will not freeze, become sticky or slow down in cold weather and, it will not evaporate in hot weather or burn off during repeat firing. This temperature range will help prevent jamming, freezing and misfires you would encounter with a lesser lubricant.
Nice diagram!
EWL Extreme weapons lubricant
EWG Extreme weapons grease
Copper cutter
All condition lubricant
love the products, work great. And wont give me cancer.
slip2000 dot com
a cut and paste from their site about temps on the all condition
Extreme Hot and Cold Conditions
Slip 2000 Gun Lubricant has a temperature range of -110 degrees F to a +1250 degrees F so it will not freeze, become sticky or slow down in cold weather and, it will not evaporate in hot weather or burn off during repeat firing. This temperature range will help prevent jamming, freezing and misfires you would encounter with a lesser lubricant.
Nice diagram!
I have wondered what the people that know what they're doing use in the arctic as well. I have used snowmobile grease on my R-15 between -33 and -35 on the couple of cold days I could find and fired a couple hundred rnds each day with no issues.
So, this seams to work. Is there a better way?
I don't want to turn this into a pitch, but here are couple products that we swear by and those that have used have raved about.
These are products that specifically interested me because of the AR. With my time in the military I can appreciate the ability to keep your AR going while cleaning the parts that "need" it and those that don't, while not spending hours at it. Both of our items we sell a lot of to individual soldiers, deployed/deploying units and Law Enforcement here in Canada. The other is available from another board sponsor.
Gunzilla CLP, the Magna-matic Defense CRT, and the OTIS Cleaning Kit
- Gunzilla.
This hottie makes learning fun..
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Magna-matic Defense Carbon Removal Tool.
See Hungary's CGN Review HERE
Detailed Review at Weapon Evolution
This spins the carbon off your bolt tail and bolt carrier in literally seconds. Lifetime warranty, made in the USA. It speaks for itself.
OTIS Grip Kit
One Shot Tactical sells OTIS Cleaning kits. With the other items, this wraps up my AR cleaning kit and I never spend much more than 15-20 mins total on my gun. I shoot a 10.5" AR and have never had a stoppage (only ~5000rnds). But that's the best performing AR I've ever had, and I attribute it to the products I use (mostly the gunzilla), and not the AR build.
These are products that specifically interested me because of the AR. With my time in the military I can appreciate the ability to keep your AR going while cleaning the parts that "need" it and those that don't, while not spending hours at it. Both of our items we sell a lot of to individual soldiers, deployed/deploying units and Law Enforcement here in Canada. The other is available from another board sponsor.
Gunzilla CLP, the Magna-matic Defense CRT, and the OTIS Cleaning Kit
- Gunzilla.
This hottie makes learning fun..
[youtube]rlGh2anhJLo[/youtube]
- Gunzilla is currently being used by seven federal agencies and by over 60 law enforcement departments. This is a tremendous accomplishment considering Gunzilla has only been on the market for a little over a year
- A testimonial from Iraq “I can tell you for certain, that no Marine in my squad who used Gunzilla ever experienced a maintenance related stoppage during a fight. …..Not only did Gunzilla substantially improve the accuracy of worn machineguns, but in temperamental machineguns with histories of jamming and fouling, regular Gunzilla used on ammo and bolt rails, allowed us to trust those weapons in combat. Gunzilla also extended the barrel life of two aging .50 Cal machineguns, whose throats were almost completely eroded when we were issued them. With regular applications of Gunzilla, those weapons remained serviceable throughout the entire tour, many thousand rounds after their barrels projected life.”
- Take the Gunzilla test - clean your gun with your existing solvent. Then run a patch with Gunzilla through the barrel and see all the rust, carbon and residues left behind by your other brand!
- Leaves a non-ionic coating which doesn’t attract sand, dust or carbon
- Can be left on the gun for an extended period of time without damaging the gun
- Safe for use on Parkerized, blued and wood finishes
- Gunzilla doesn't freeze but it does turn into a light grease in the liquid form below 29 degrees. However the grease remains pliable so the weapon will continue to function in very cold temperatures (tested in 20 below). If very cold operation is a concern then we recommend wiping the weapon dry. In the dry lubricating mode Gunzilla’s coating is not affected by extreme cold
- Gunzilla displaces water in wet conditions.
Magna-matic Defense Carbon Removal Tool.
See Hungary's CGN Review HERE
Detailed Review at Weapon Evolution
This spins the carbon off your bolt tail and bolt carrier in literally seconds. Lifetime warranty, made in the USA. It speaks for itself.
OTIS Grip Kit
One Shot Tactical sells OTIS Cleaning kits. With the other items, this wraps up my AR cleaning kit and I never spend much more than 15-20 mins total on my gun. I shoot a 10.5" AR and have never had a stoppage (only ~5000rnds). But that's the best performing AR I've ever had, and I attribute it to the products I use (mostly the gunzilla), and not the AR build.
Yup... Though, I just buy any high-temp wheel bearing grease I can get for cheap.
I started the move more recently after realizing how much lube I go through (I do a lot of shooting). Frankly, go through too much lube and most of it is very expensive. Where as with Mobil1 grease for example, I get a 1 pound tub of it for ~$1.70 (It was on sale, reg price ~$2.95).
It also makes less of a mess, it doesnt dry up, it stays where you put it, it works in extreme cold/heat, its easy to clean off.
I just drop the BCG into an ultrasonic cleaner when I do clean it (rarely). Fast and effective. If you count your time and elbow grease in $$, then an ultrasonic cleaner is inexpensive and cleans most removable parts, like BCGs and even whole handguns.
Run wet with your lube of choice. I like G96 in general, but finds that it disappears on the parked AR bolts if the guns are stored for a while.
Run wet with your lube of choice. I like G96 in general, but finds that it disappears on the parked AR bolts if the guns are stored for a while.
I rely mostly on brushes in good condition, lots of elbow grease, some rubbing alcohol and about 4 drops of CLP for the whole gun. The armourers course I was on recommended that only the top of the charging handle and the bearing surfaces on the bolt carrier get lubed, everything else stays dry. If I dress the gun after bad weather (to displace moisture) then I spend a long time wiping off all the excess and drying the gun out. This has really cut down on my stoppages and carbon build up. Once and a while I'll drop some shooters choice down the barrel, but not very often.
Uhmm...correct me if I'm wrong, but I think gommee's post suggested Mobil 1 OIL not Mobil 1 GREASE.
Travis Bickle
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Mobil 1 and Ed's Red baby! All you ever need.
G96 as a base. It's a metal conditioner. As mentioned though it does soak into parkarized parts. I also use a few drops of rem oil or whatever was on sale for the rails and other bearing surfaces.
I've had G96 in up to -50 for my duty pistol. Doesn't freeze and pistol still racked. Clp and g96 are approved by RCMP. I prefer G96. Also for cleaning you just wipe it down. No scrubbing required. Cleaning time is cut in half.
I've had G96 in up to -50 for my duty pistol. Doesn't freeze and pistol still racked. Clp and g96 are approved by RCMP. I prefer G96. Also for cleaning you just wipe it down. No scrubbing required. Cleaning time is cut in half.
blaxsun
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
And don't forget: G96 smells awesome!
I have a few of the CF issue squeeze bottles of CLP that are about the size of a pill bottle that I use. when they are gone, I'll probably just switch to Ballistol.
Every DI AR I've owned likes to run oily and wet. Same for the blowback 9mm's.
Every DI AR I've owned likes to run oily and wet. Same for the blowback 9mm's.
Personally, I use CLP because of it's availability to me and I have never had an issue with it.
I have heard (but never experienced) that the teflon will seperate from the oil in your rifle if stored for a very long time. While I heard this from the military side, it's possible that this happened to weapons that were put into storage for years.
I've used it in all sorts of conditions from Afghan summers to Canadian Winters. In the desert, use oil sparingly as it will collect every peice of dust and dirt that is floating by. I have had my rifle freeze up once while on a winter exercise. But it was because of condensation that formed from firing then immediately freezing. It was cured by simply cocking it a few times.
I have also heard a couple of things but I'm not sure if I believe them regarding CLP. One is that it is corrosive and bad for your gun over time. I've been using it for years both at work and at home. I'm pretty lazy so I don't scrub any of my firearms, just oil and wipe and CLP works just fine. I'm sure there is better out there, but I can't justify spending the money when this works just as well for a lot less money.
As for actually firing an AR, they like oil. Mine is usually pretty sloppy when I actually shoot it. Makes it run smooth and plroblem free, and helps a bit for cleaning afterwards. It can be a little messy, but I get over it.
I have heard (but never experienced) that the teflon will seperate from the oil in your rifle if stored for a very long time. While I heard this from the military side, it's possible that this happened to weapons that were put into storage for years.
I've used it in all sorts of conditions from Afghan summers to Canadian Winters. In the desert, use oil sparingly as it will collect every peice of dust and dirt that is floating by. I have had my rifle freeze up once while on a winter exercise. But it was because of condensation that formed from firing then immediately freezing. It was cured by simply cocking it a few times.
I have also heard a couple of things but I'm not sure if I believe them regarding CLP. One is that it is corrosive and bad for your gun over time. I've been using it for years both at work and at home. I'm pretty lazy so I don't scrub any of my firearms, just oil and wipe and CLP works just fine. I'm sure there is better out there, but I can't justify spending the money when this works just as well for a lot less money.
As for actually firing an AR, they like oil. Mine is usually pretty sloppy when I actually shoot it. Makes it run smooth and plroblem free, and helps a bit for cleaning afterwards. It can be a little messy, but I get over it.
