AR15 trigger for service rifle

[beltfed]

If a trigger causes a miss,you've got bigger problems than can be solved with an upgrade.

Sure, it all factors into it. Shooter skill & fitness aside, Excellent quality ammo, floating an excellent quality barrel, and other attributes you can 'throw money at' are really free points in my mind.
Another factor is the mental game...sure, maybe that trigger is only realistically picking a shooter up 35 points (or whatever), but maybe it is helping them with the mental aspect too?

 

[Gunnerlove]

So that is why I screwed up my Naden last year, a stock trigger. Here I was thinking it was being out of shape and not training enough.

 

[NavyShooter]

<--- amuzed @ gunnerlove

Cost me the Queens 2 years ago. Screw the pooch on the Naden and you're done. On the other hand, if my trigger had been better, I'd have probably missed with a better group.

Oh, yeah....that was my good trigger. The C-7A1 I'd been shooting for 11 years....90AA05654....shot like a dream, and the trigger had about 20,000 rounds across it. SMOOTH as glass. The barrel on that rifle wore out between 12,000 and 15,000 rounds (opened up from a 1.25" group to a 4" group at 100m prone....throat ended up being "fully eroded" when the techs replaced it for me.) so the new barrel had maybe 5,000 through it.

I wish I'd been able to keep that trigger....alas, we turned in those weapons and the techs were too busy to swap it out for me.

*sigh*

NS

(When I was in the butts for Stage 2, I was next to that Gurkha Major, and some other young troopie. The troopie asked to see the Major's SA-80, so he said "sure"....tried the trigger out and complimented him on it! The Major and I shared a look at that comment, and I offered the Major my C-7 to try the trigger. He gave it a try and his eyes snapped to me in a SERIOUS case of trigger envy....yeah, that was a good trigger.)

 

[bmw]

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Trigger weight.......just squeeze between shakes..

Cheers
BMW

 

[NavyShooter]

BMW,

You know why it's better to shoot hungover, right?

You shake slower and you make every shot count.

*BANG*ow
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[bmw]

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You shake slower and you make every shot count.

But if you want a good trigger. All you need is the stock trigger ( as long as it is not nicked) and a nice flat piece of hard wood, a box of beer, and start polishing. May finish it off with a quick cycle on crocus cloth. This is all I have been using for 14 yrs.

Cheers
BMW

 

[Longshot]

Ha you guys crack me up.I'm going to miss collecting t shirts with you two this summer.

Is a nice trigger good to have?Sure its fine.Will it gain you 35 points?No not a chance.Neither will a free floated barrel or a 20x scope.They might give you some confidence,but then again confidence in suped up equipment is kinda false confidence.

Shooting service rifle really well is kinda like being a jedi.Someone comes at you with the old "I need a match trigger" and you think when will they learn.
"Can I see your rifle please?"
"These are not the trigger group and free floating barrel you are looking for..."(waves hand)
"These are not the trigger group and free floating barrel we're looking for...carry on."

 

[Shelldrake]

For some Jedi, a scratchy issue trigger on that light sabre is something that knocks on our karma. Using The Force, we can work through it, but given time we will "fix" that trigger and move on.
As BMW states, it is a simple fix.

 

[NavyShooter]

Any word on the street yet for T-shirt collection invitations?

 

[Shelldrake]

Any word on the street yet for T-shirt collection invitations?

Nothing here,, been quiet.

 

[Longshot]

Fack I wish I was going again.Next year for sure.

 

[NavyShooter]

LS,

I've done that with guys on the team before....I'm in the back of the truck working on some project or other, and someone comes up to me with a rifle and asks me to "look at the trigger for them".

They're most pleased when you agree, and they happily leave it with you. Usually a quick cleaning and de-gritting will suffice and turning it back over to them 15 minutes later after "working my magic" on it brings a smile to their face and bouys their confidence.

In the medical world, they call it a placebo.

In Service Rifle, it's a part of the mental game to help a new shooter along.

NS

 

[Longshot]

Yep I hear ya.

 

[Gunnerlove]

Any word on the street yet for T-shirt collection invitations?

End of Jan they asked me for a confirmation of my availability (hell yes), since then nothing.

 

[NavyShooter]

GL,

I'm keeping an eye on the website, nothing seen yet. I'm guessing that with the paperwork sent out by Shelldrake yesterday on the CFSAC side, they'll now be running with the CENTSAM stuff.

NS

 

[beltfed]

Is a nice trigger good to have?Sure its fine.Will it gain you 35 points?No not a chance.Neither will a free floated barrel or a 20x scope.They might give you some confidence,but then again confidence in suped up equipment is kinda false confidence.

O.K. maybe not the trigger alone....
but, there is more advantage to rifle and ammunition than some would like to admit.
When I was in, and far fitter than I am now, I'd be lucky to post a 500 with an issue C7 and IVI

I'm now out of shape with a broken back and poorer eye sight, but a gun and ammo that will run circles around that C7 & IVI. I can now break 550 with some consistancy.

It is highly unlikely that I have gotten better at shooting in the 7 years, and if anything, I am far worse off in this game.

 

[Longshot]

I bet that if you shot with a C7 and IVI now you'd post the same sort of score.

 

[NavyShooter]

Word is not on the street, but from a reliable source, it will be out "soon".

NS

 

[beltfed]

I bet that if you shot with a C7 and IVI now you'd post the same sort of score.

I'd need two new discs in the lower vertebrae to do that again.

 

[bmw]

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I'd need two new discs in the lower vertebrae to do that again.

E-Bay.....you can get anything on E-Bay.....I already have a new liver lined up.

Oh and I concur on being able to post scores of 550 with todays C7 and IVI, and I'm 43, overweight, drink like a fish and ya lazy.... Almost time to just start belly shooting with the DCRA....owww shiver..

Cheers
BMW