I have read the Moore report which is quoted at length in Blake Stevens book,US Rifle M14 and I also have a copy of the American Rifleman magazine vintage 1961, which presented an extensive report on M14 production problems and remedies.All things being equal,I would much rather have a real M14 than one of the Chinese clones based on my extensive use of a wonderfully reliable and accurate HRA M14 in issue condition.Maybe I was truly blessed with an exceptional piece.About the only deficiency which I experienced with it was a tendency for the gas plug to loosen after a period of firing.Obviously others have similar preferences as evidenced by the extensive substitution of US GI M14 parts to replace what are judged to be defective components of the Chinese product.I do not believe that the problems which were experienced in the production of the US M14 rifle can in any way be used to elevate or excuse the quality of the current Chinese product.My personal choice is to avoid the Norinco,but I'm happy to see it's devoted followers enjoy it for what it is-a bargain basement M14 clone which can be upgraded to real M14 standards after a fair outlay of money and time.
Are the Norinco M14 bolts too soft?
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Given the choice, I am sure most would rather have a USGI M-14 than a M305, an M1A or one of the other clones.
Unfortunately, an M-14, being a prohib, is out of the question for most, and if a person does have 12(2 or 3) status, and can own the real thing, it is utterly useless as a shooter.
So, it boils down to which clone is the best alternative. The M305 and the M1A are the most available options, and that discussion has been beaten to death.
Unfortunately, an M-14, being a prohib, is out of the question for most, and if a person does have 12(2 or 3) status, and can own the real thing, it is utterly useless as a shooter.
So, it boils down to which clone is the best alternative. The M305 and the M1A are the most available options, and that discussion has been beaten to death.
Think for a moment of the various commercial VZ-58 clones. Think of offshore M-14s. If the Chinese could be talked into making new M305 receivers, is there any reason why rifles could not be assembled and imported? If it can be done with the VZs, why not with the M-14s?
What I wanna know is...... why can't a "liscenced manufacturer" take a usgi receiver and cut the selector switch flange off and re register as a semi auto only? There would be no difference between the receivers, I've compared them...... it just makes no sense to me
Please don't talk about these things... The blinds are open and I don't want the neighbours to see me getting "excited."
Consider the VZ situation. The receivers were finished, selective fire, but had NEVER been assembled into rifles. The mfr. finished them off as semi auto, and assembled rifles. The M-14 receivers were assembled into rifles, which were capable of being configured for selective fire. It is my understanding that this is why a M-14 receiver cannot be remanufactured as semi, without being a CA, while the VZ receiver can be used to assemble a restricted or non-restricted rifle.
this thread was started back in 2007..... asking the question...." Are the Norinco M14 bolts too soft? "
this thread is the epitomy of a "multiple hijacking" hehehehe
BUT in answer to the original question....... Are the Norinco M14 bolts too soft?
obviously not
this thread is the epitomy of a "multiple hijacking" hehehehe
BUT in answer to the original question....... Are the Norinco M14 bolts too soft?
obviously not
Man, you should see the hijacks on CGS...I started a thread about nailing hookers and it turned into a thing about Agent Orange...within about a day.
building a semi M14..
The simple answer is "Of course!" We all know, that in theory, there is no difference between theory and opractice. However, in practice there CAN BE a big difference between theory and practice.
I had (and still have) several never-been-built M14s kits that I bought from SIR a number of years ago. The ones I sold were built up into quite accurate SA rifles.
Is that the answer you are looking for?
The simple answer is "Of course!" We all know, that in theory, there is no difference between theory and opractice. However, in practice there CAN BE a big difference between theory and practice.
I had (and still have) several never-been-built M14s kits that I bought from SIR a number of years ago. The ones I sold were built up into quite accurate SA rifles.
Is that the answer you are looking for?
Because I was just thinking, that I'll bet that there are probably some receivers in Marstar's overseas warehouse that might not have ever been fully assembled.
Who ever goes over to do the initial evaluation for us should keep an especially sharp eye out for those ones!
Who ever goes over to do the initial evaluation for us should keep an especially sharp eye out for those ones!
For its price, dont be expecting sub MOA groups. What do you expect for $399? The groups however are good enough to hit any animal and .308win is good for any animal in North America. As for 600 yrds shooting, again what do you expect for $399? With good eyes and the right load, it can and has been done.
