Arguing with a BC CO in the butcher shop..... hmmmmmm

LOL , just thought i would share in case other guys here from BC end up being approached by a dimwit CO.
Lots of folks i've talked to are seriously confused about the regs on mulies in the province. I still argue with one of my friends that you can shoot two bucks in region 2.... it's crystal clear in the regs but he doesn't come on our region 2 hunts because he doesn't wanna get in trouble with the grey area of the regs he says..... retarded I say.... but i invite him every year anyways LOL
 
yodave said:
lol, i didn't see who posted it until after I replied.........

we had a young kid on the coast, used to play with his holster and the snap on it, so one day while getting the usual 20 questions I loaded my rifle, he got nervous and asked what i was doing, told him i was leveling the playing field and hung my rifle on my shoulder, he asked me to unload it and put it back in the truck, I said sure, you first.......take the handgun off the hip and we can talk.....you keep playing with the snap like your trying to intimidate me and yet you don't like playing on a level playing field......we parted ways shortly there after and word from the others was he learned to talk to people with his arms folded across his chest hiding his name tag LOL
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Funny thing is I used to wonder why, by and large, CO's seem to have a better grasp on how to deal with people. And then I realized, during hunting season everyone that they are out there to police are armed. You are bound to pick up some social skills!
 
FGR said:
Funny thing is I used to wonder why, by and large, CO's seem to have a better grasp on how to deal with people. And then I realized, during hunting season everyone that they are out there to police are armed. You are bound to pick up some social skills!
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The last couple I met were tracking poachers we had a amicable talk..
 
Outcast said:
Don’t think you have to be a tough guy to stand up to unlawful activity , ya know , arbitrary detention, unlawful search and seizure, just stuff like that.
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don't sweat it man, like i said, I don't suffer fools , neither should you, especially when it's folks who are foolish enuff to think that doing what i did is somehow being a tough guy LOL

4:24 pm and the CO's have not pulled in my driveway :evil:
 
I remember I had a guy at the range who identified himself as a off-duty police officer tell me that my barrel shroud on my NR Scorpion EVO was a suppressor and therefore a prohibited device. I straight up told him to f off and explained to him what a barrel shroud was. Boy did his face turn red. I hadn't laughed that hard in a while.
 
btabin said:
I remember I had a guy at the range who identified himself as a off-duty police officer tell me that my barrel shroud on my NR Scorpion EVO was a suppressor and therefore a prohibited device. I straight up told him to f off and explained to him what a barrel shroud was. Boy did his face turn red. I hadn't laughed that hard in a while.
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Yeah, I had something like that happen to me once. I was goose hunting along a dike at the North Alouette River once when it was open (it's closed now) and this guy came up to me and claimed to be an RCMP member of the ERT and said that it was only open on Weekends and Wednesdays there. I informed him that he was wrong. That rule applied only to the Pitt wildlife Management area otherwise known as the polder, a few kms north of where I was. He didn't insist and went on his way.
 
I have gotten to know a couple younger rcmp members who have rotated thru my community that our initial contact was basically them checking on us while shooting on crown. I've been teaching one of them fly casting, tying and of course catching local rainbows on the fly. One is also a bit of a gun nut and both find it a lot funner to head out on crown with me to go shooting than to shoot with his co workers.
In my youth and early adult life I was indeed branded on cpic as anti police due to standing my ground among other things. Took me many years to be clear of that title but they still gave me a firearms license and renew it promptly everytime I've reapplied.
I am most certainly not anti police and there's more than a handful of LEO's, even those from this site, that have no doubt vetted me out before approaching and interacting with me both socially and for work on thier firearms.
 
That's awesome T! Like most things hunting and gun related in this country, the people enforcing the rules have no clue as to the rules.
 
Well I had a Peace Officer drive out into the middle of my decoy spread in the dark ,not once but twice to see why I was there.Empty marked decoy boxes in the box of my truck 300 yards away he first "inspected".Told him I was practicing synchronized swimming for the Olympics what does it look like ?Idiot ..............a young keener the locals all hate pulling everyone over that has farm equipment.Also had a CO drive across swaths in the evening to see why where there on land we had permission to be on for 30 years deer hunting.Called the landowner to let him know it wasn't us that was wrecking his grain.
 
I went thru this in Quesnel a few a bunch of years ago.
Filling up at a local gas station and had a young bull rack on the front of my quad.
The fisheries gal stopped in and wanted to see my mulie tag.
Nope, says I.
The push and shove went on for quite a while, then her big co-worker came along
and I lit into him to.
Pretty much told the I'd be calling in the RCMP to deal with their harassmint.
Tards, no idea what they were talking about.
I was 100% legal in every regard.
The last straw was her wanting to see my butcher's receipt.
 
I got lucky with a BC CO who didn't know the law. We were out moose and grouse hunting, as usual, and had a Ruger 10/22 with a 10" barrel. When we built and used that gun we hadn't realized that the BC regs' handgun definition includes any firearm with under a 12" barrel. So we were breaking BC law by hunting with a "handgun" even though it's non-restricted. The CO just said, "You have some interesting guns" and then left us alone. (We also had a Tavor TAR-21 with us.) So it works both ways.
 
my first interaction with a co was my finest.
someone dropped a deer and drove off.so rightly we called it in before anyone else accused us of the crime.

so 2 1/2 hrs later a CO rocks up.
he questions us all individually.
i have a ruger 10/22 for chicken hunting and the CO stands there and accuses me of killing the deer.
so i lost it on him,since when does a ####ing 22 cal bullet cause a fist size exit wound and why the ####
would i stand here in -30c for 2 1/2hrs waiting for YOU

since that day i havent understood the lack of intelligence of uniformed personel
 
Outcast said:
Don’t think you have to be a tough guy to stand up to unlawful activity , ya know , arbitrary detention, unlawful search and seizure, just stuff like that.
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45ACPKING said:
Wow ..... I mean how do these morons get thier jobs?
As I was leaving my butcher today from picking up boxes of meat from my hunting season thus far, I commented to my butcher that I still needed to fill one more deer tag.
That's when the CO that was looking at the books came around the corner and asked to see my licence and tags. Having killed two mule deer already he got all in a huff and was going to have to take my boxes of meat and consult his superior.
I promptly walked over and closed the hatch on the cherokee and said...... you need to do what now?

He said as far as he was aware, I was only allowed one mule deer for the province and seeing as I had punched two mulie tags..... he was "pretty sure" I was in violation of the new hunting regs on mule deer.
I scoffed at him ...... I got right down rude actually LOL
Little pissant , barely even 30 with his spotless uniform on and shiny clean truck LOL Fack Off now.
So I very clearly spelled it out for him that region 2 is not part of the provinces Mule deer restrictions and the bag limit there is 2 bucks per season. Shoot them minutes apart , weeks apart, makes no difference, the bag limit is 2 bucks. The deer in region 2 are classified as Black Tails but count as a mulie tag.
So having killed my 3pt mulie in region 5 means no more mule deer in a bunch of regions other than a doe by LEH..... but the provincial bag limit is still 3 deer , mulies or whitetail.
The guy went purple and told me I was wrong and I was to remain untill his superior arrived.
I said nope..... I got meat to get in the freezer and I have no time for law enforcement that doesn't even know the laws they are trying to enforce.
I got in my truck and drove away.

So here I am reading the regs over and over, I know I'm right, it's crystal clear in the regs and online....... so I sit on my couch and wait to see if the "superior" shows up in my driveway..... and I think I'm going to pen a nasty letter to the head of the BC conservation officer department and to the Minister in charge of hunting.

We all need to push back against this kind of crap and also push back against the ridiculous Mule deer restrictions that have been applied in this province.
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I don't disagree that you should stand up for yourself if you are in the the right, but do you need to be a d!ck and immediately confrontational about the situation? And Outcast, I hope you treated everyone with the same leniency when they told you to fu@k off because you made a simple mistake in your years of policing.
 
45ACPKING said:
don't sweat it man, like i said, I don't suffer fools , neither should you, especially when it's folks who are foolish enuff to think that doing what i did is somehow being a tough guy LOL

4:24 pm and the CO's have not pulled in my driveway :evil:
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Enjoy the random internets pats on the backs for the story you told.
 
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