Army Will Test Out 3 More Sub-Guns For Security Units

[Juster]

SMGs are all about more rounds on target to be effective.

 

[WeatherdoG]

The point is to not have issues with over penetration, but still be an effective close range weapon. All the latest wonder rounds for penetration are great, except that appears to be exactly what they want to avoid. The people carrying these weapons will be the ones escorting Generals and politicians, not storming enemy SOF bases.. They want a weapon suited to tight spaces, and crowded public squares.

 

[Dr. Hunter]

Disregard. Did some reading. They are all withing 500g of each other for weight. The ump is also a 30 round max from the factory.

As for the 22lr I see where you are going but I'm not sure it's a fair comparo since you can never hold a 22lr to the same reliability standards as 9mm or the unobtanium 4.6x30mm

As for Rich LPS initial question. I think the biggest answer is the same as the previous guy who asked why not P90. Logistics. They got tons of 9mm. and it will still do business. Perhaps cost of weapon is another thing maybe the ump is substantially cheaper than the mp7.

Now what really surprises me is that Sig didn't poke their nose in with the MPX.

The Sig mpx is there. This article is talking about adding these 3 as contenders to the 10 they are already testing

 

[sidester]

Bring Back the 30 carbine ammo with penetrators!

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/10/16/imi-magal-30m1-carbine-reloaded/

 

[greentips]

Looks like these guys have a lot of the work done in non-war zones as well.

U.S. Army Protective Services Battalion (USAPSB)
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The U.S. Army Protective Services Battalion (CID) is headquartered at Fort Belvoir, Virginia. The Battalion’s mission is to provide world-wide, executive-level protection to the Secretary of Defense, the Deputy Secretary of Defense, the Chairman and Vice Chairman, Joint Staff, the Secretary of the Army, the Chief of Staff of the Army, the Vice Chief of Staff of the Army, the Chief National Guard Bureau, and their foreign counterparts on official visits to the United States and other Department of Defense High Risk Personnel as directed. Further, the Battalion provides executive level protection for Senior U.S. Army Commanders during war-time and contingency operations as directed.

The organization’s mission began when the 1st MP Detachment (CID) was given the mission of protecting the nations’ highest Department of Defense civilian and military leaders in the late 1960s during heightened unrest caused by the Vietnam War. In 1971, subsequent to the establishment of the U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Command as a major Army command, the Protective Services Activity (PSA), USACIDC, was established within HQ USACIDC to manage DoD protective missions. During the build up to the 1991 Gulf War, the PSA (CID) was reorganized as the Protective Services Unit (PSU) (CID), as the PSU was continually assigned more protected “principals” due to higher threat situations around the world. In October 2005, the unit was again reorganized as the Protective Services Battalion (CID), due to its ever increasing mission. In October 2007, the unit underwent its latest reorganization and became the U.S. Army Protective Services Battalion (CID).

Today, the Protective Services Battalion continues to send its CID Special Agents throughout the United States and around the world in furtherance of its continued mission in protecting our nation’s highest civilian and military DoD leaders. The Battalion continues to deploy Personal Security Officers with the mission of protecting Senior Army Commanders in Afghanistan, Kuwait, Africa, and Iraq.