Asc mags

Hitzy said:
This isn't the first time it's been discussed.
If you know they are legit, what's it matter if someone else might know otherwise? Your mind is made up....doesn't matter what anyone else thinks or knows about the subject. Maybe you will get lucky and get to explain your reasoning and understanding of the laws to a judge..... Me, I'm not prepared to go down that road.....
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Shocked is the state I find myself after reading your reply.

Your condescending attitude when addressing other members PoV is what I see as the problem in this thread.
 
BenL said:
Why???

Economics 101 bud.

Why would they pay for a manufacturer to produce a mag that'll be use to half it's capacity and then flip the bill to the consumer when you can produce it at a lesser cost, thus selling it for cheaper??
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Re: Questar

When you can sell 15,000 of one item at a profit, but you don't sell that item, there has to be a reason - no? For crying out loud am I typing too quickly? I'll type slower so you get it in future.

PS - the argument, by you, which I have quoted, is completely incoherent.

I'm done here - if you want to kid yourself that using 30 round AR mags pinned to 10 is legal, because some *sshat silk screened the words "pistol magazine" on them, go right ahead - but when you try to write a lame post about how the police seized your firearms, mags and PAL and charged you with possession of a prohibited device, expect absolutely zero sympathy. People who have been dealing with this ridiculous BS law since before it was given assent have given you the benefit of their hard earned experience.
 
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enefgee said:
3. (1) Any cartridge magazine

(a) that is capable of containing more than five cartridges of the type for which the magazine was originally designed and that is designed or manufactured for use in

(i) a semi-automatic handgun that is not commonly available in Canada,

(ii) a semi-automatic firearm other than a semi-automatic handgun,


The 30 round flavour of AR15 FOW magazines were initially produced in the 1960's - long before any AR15 pistol was available anywhere. This magazine is described by it's physical characteristics - length, width and depth as well as by it's capacity - which necessitates the measurements. The fact that these particular 30 round sized boxes were supposedly designed for pistols is irrelevant since the original box of those physical dimensions was designed for rifles.
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You have placed the emphasis in the wrong spots. I fixed it for you. The cartridge type the magazine was designed for is irrelevant since both the AR15 pattern rifle and pistol magazines are designed to use 5.56mm/.223Rem. In the second part, the word "or" is used. This means the magazine does not have to be both, designed and manufactured. Just one of the two is sufficient to qualify it to be considered a pistol magazine. In this case the magazine is manufactured, by a legitimate manufacturer for the commonly available LAR-15 pistol. The design (length, width, grooves, cuts, folds etc. etc.) has no bearing on its legal status.

So to make it simple, to keep a pistol magazine from being a prohibited device, it must:

a) be designed or manufactured for a commonly available pistol;

b) hold no more than 10 cartridges of the type that it was designed to hold.
 
angryeyebrows said:
You have placed the emphasis in the wrong spots. I fixed it for you. The cartridge type the magazine was designed for is irrelevant since both the AR15 pattern rifle and pistol magazines are designed to use 5.56mm/.223Rem. In the second part, the word "or" is used. This means the magazine does not have to be both, designed and manufactured. Just one of the two is sufficient to qualify it to be considered a pistol magazine. In this case the magazine is manufactured, by a legitimate manufacturer for the commonly available LAR-15 pistol. The design (length, width, grooves, cuts, folds etc. etc.) has no bearing on its legal status.

So to make it simple, to keep a pistol magazine from being a prohibited device, it must:

a) be designed or manufactured for a commonly available pistol;

b) hold no more than 10 cartridges of the type that it was designed to hold.
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Tell it to the judge.....let us know how much it costs you in the long run, and what the final verdict is....
 
I emailed the company. They state that they are manufactured for them in the USA for the LAR-15 pistol. They state they are exported and imported under a permit that is issued by the USA and by Canada with the items as described. They are round-limited in a way that makes it impossible to modify them to fire more than 10 rounds.
CBSA/RCMP has neither seized or ordered any of the shipments held.
I spoke to one of our firearms verification guys at work and after reading and discussion he seems to be of the opinion that, as the magazines are designed/manufactured and stamped for use in LAR-15 pistols they are legal import/possession. Just as a 30-round glock magazine pinned to 10 is also legal for a pistol.
 
Punisher-One said:
Just as a 30-round glock magazine pinned to 10 is also legal for a pistol.
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i don't know why people keep bringin the glock magazine into this argument.... glock has NEVER manufactured a rifle to take its magazines, if glock did manufacture a magazine specifically for a rifle that currently takes glock magazines it would have to be limited to 5 rounds. same as the berreta cx4 storm..... magazines marked "cx4 storm" legally have to be limited to 5 rounds, but magazines made for the beretta 92fs can be 10 round and used in the carbine.
 
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