Asking advise for pistol red dot

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First of all, my hands are not long enough and I cannot see the mechanical sight. And I refuse to visit the optometrist for specialty glasses, especially if the optometrist is not a shooter himself as well.
For my rifles I have a wide spectrum higher quality scopes for all my games.

I got this YU made CZ TT 7.62 (Tokarev) from a friend for a free, with CFO authorization.
To try if pistol shooting I could do at all.
Tried it another day in my club, already knowing and not expecting much, but the results on paper were shocking :)
I may invest into some low profile red dot, but on frame mount only, I have seen some online for 1911 not sure if would fit the TT 57. I can drill/modify the frame as much needed.
So I am trying very carefully to select my purchases, to minimize the losses if pistol shooting won't work for me.

Any advise on cheapest red dot that can survive the 7.62 recoil?
 
Your biggest problem is going to be the optic mount. There does not appear to be a commercial option for an optic mount for that pistol.

The cost of a professional modification to the slide will far exceed the value of the gun.
 
I Dont Care About You said:
Your biggest problem is going to be the optic mount. There does not appear to be a commercial option for an optic mount for that pistol.

The cost of a professional modification to the slide will far exceed the value of the gun.
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I am my own mechanic, and mostly I don't need a gunsmith when I am modding with my "toys".
My concern is, that these low profile red dots follow some "mounting footprint", or pic rail mounts but that will elevate the height. So I would need to buy one red dot and revers engineer the rigging.
I know that is a first step I will need to figure out.

I am retired from mechanical design and engineering, and I've been in manufacturing and fabrication processes since day one.
This my friend has a CNC shop and he offered me he can machine a bracket if I design it.

As much I can see from online pictures any similar shape bracket that may fit, the cost is about $150 USD plus the hassle getting it to my hands.
I am sure I can get it fabricated for fractions in my machine shop.
But again, I am trying to reach a less cost options, because the pistol shooting - may - or - may not work for me. I don't want to have a dead investment in my drawers.

Back to OP question, what inexpensive red dots can survive the recoil?

Or shall I maybe move the OP to a handgun-pistol section?
 
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Any dot made for a firearm should hold up to recoil
Bushnell Burris both have compact units, trend today for competitors is toward larger dots for faster race targets

Does the rear sight have a dovetail mount? EGW makes a plate that fits dovetail for various optics
 
take a good look at burris fasfire they have multiple types of rear sight replacement mounting options they dont offer one specific to your pistol but chiise ine with a bigger dove tail and have your friend machine yours to fit then your done
 
boxhitch said:
... Does the rear sight have a dovetail mount? EGW makes a plate that fits dovetail for various optics
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I would really like to avoid mounting the red dot on the slide, but on the block in front of the ejector window.
What is the EGW stands for?
 
Honestly I bought a super cheap Vector Frenzy from Reliable Gun for my PDP with the full thought it would fail within the first 50 rounds or not hold zero. So far I've put around 700 rounds of basic target 9mm ammo down the pipe and still maintains zero. Battery life has been better than my Holosuns.
 
bigHUN said:
I would really like to avoid mounting the red dot on the slide, but on the block in front of the ejector window.
What is the EGW stands for?
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Why not the slide - most all semis they are mounted there on a dovetail cut or custom cut for a flat mounting plate..

EGW is Evolution Gun Works
 
If your eyes are bad, you could have astigmatism. Which would make the dot, appear to be semi colon shape or star burst.

Try a reddot on a pistol before you commit several hundred dollars on reddot on a TT33, that might not be that accurate to begin with.
 
Hun - sounds like you need glasses for a distance matching your arm's reach to the pistol sights, Unless you have additional problems not mentioned. I'd think any optometrist could make that measurement, w/o being a shooter. While I was working I had TRI-focal glasses - One distance for reading at 12-14" ; one for computer screen at Desktop ca 24" and one for 3-ft to infinity. I was able to 'read fine print' and also see to drive and read street signs at about 50-yds. You just need to get those Rx for the distance for your arm-length. A friend found he could get glasses (frame & lens) online for about $30-40 by sending the Rx - nothing fancy, just 'Buddy Holly looking glasses. Your Opto should give you those numbers at your next visit. I NEVER bought glasses from the 'prescribing' Opto, always got 'em from Loblaws at grocery for about 1/3 the price !
 
Paul_T said:
Why not the slide - most all semis they are mounted there
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I don't trust that slide is tight tolerance and returns to the same spot all time. The pistol was in bad shape sitting long in a box, I refurbished it and I have seen the parts. Deburr it and re-blue it, but still a built year was about late 70's and meant for army service, so pretty rough.

OkayShooter said:
If your eyes are bad, you could have astigmatism. Which would make the dot, appear to be semi colon shape or star burst.

Try a reddot on a pistol before you commit several hundred dollars on reddot on a TT33, that might not be that accurate to begin with.
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No astigmatism, I had several red dots on my air rifles years ago and still one on my air pistol today.
I still have one Vortex BNIB no 30 minutes in it, but is a tall profile picatiny mount for rifles, it would be ugly for a hand gun.

My problem is that those muscles in and around the eye got lazy from 20+ years sitting in static distance in front of the PC screen. The worst thing I need those prescription "reading glasses" at evening when driving a car in dark --- and I need to watch my odometer all the time :)
 
Those 'reading glasses' likely aren't Rx for distance - which is what is out past your odo . You're NOT seeing that stuff clearly either. Maybe you need bifocals or progressive Rx lenses .
 
Sorry I need to clarify, for car odo reading in night drive I have progressive glasses I dedicated only for that task, otherwise not using that glasses for anything else.
No, I tried for handgun shooting many bifocals or progressive both I need to move the head U-D what I am not really reluctant of doing.
For the cost of getting dedicated glasses for pistol shooting I would instead go for red dot, and not screw up my far vision ... I guess ...
 
ceegee said:
Honestly I bought a super cheap Vector Frenzy from Reliable Gun for my PDP with the full thought it would fail within the first 50 rounds or not hold zero. So far I've put around 700 rounds of basic target 9mm ammo down the pipe and still maintains zero. Battery life has been better than my Holosuns.
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Good advise, I ordered one Mini Frenzy directly from global.vector2700, it is in the mail second week already.
But I forgot to order the adapter plate with a footprint for that Mini. I know that no one will fit the TT57 pistol slider, but it is easier to rework one instead of making a completely new adapter.
Or, tinkering to attach a short picatiny rail, maybe better that way.
 
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