ATC runaround - finally approved

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I applied for my ATC in early May. I finally got the confirmation from the CFO that it is approved :eek:

Here are some of the things that slowed down the process.

1) I sent in the application without a shooting proficiency qualification. I had done this in the past and had no problems but things have changed. My bad.

2) So I qualify with the Pistol Chair at my range, I get him to fill in his part of the questionnaire and sign it. Fax it in to CFO.

3) The CFO office then tells me that the qualification confirmation has to be on a separate range letterhead even though there is an area for this on the CFO questionnaire. This seems like BS on the CFO's part.

4) I get the Pistol Chair to do up a qualification letter on the ranges letterhead.

5) The CFO tells me that the qualification letter has to be dated.

6) I call the Pistol Chair (who has done this all for free and has been very patient) and ask him to edit the letter which he does.

7) I emailed the letter to the CFO and today they confirmed that my ATC was approved - 6 1/2 months later!!!!!!

Much of the delays at the beginning were my fault including not calling them and assuming everything was OK because they'd always approved my ATC's so quickly in the past.

So you BC guys applying for ATC's - do the qualification and get it on your clubs letterhead and date it. And call them often to check on the status of the application and approval.

Apply early as there may be delays.

Above all, don't take no for answer if you honestly qualify for a wildnerness ATC.

I included a bunch of my handguns on this application - 9mm. .38 Special, .357 Magnum and .454 Casull. It'll be interesting to see if all of them have been approved.
 
this was a fairly new requirement, several of us in the office all got turned down a couple years ago after holding atc's since the 80's. They processed them pretty quick after we sent in proficiency letters.

Was your atc processed by the edmonton or surrey office ?
 
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A profieciency test by a qualified member of a certified range.

At my range, the Pistol Chair does the qualifications.

He had me shoot ~ 100 rounds with my .454 Casull, single action, double action, slow and rapid timed fire, two handed, single handed as well as drawing from my holster.
 
Approx two years ago they made some changes (including the competency letter requirement) without notifying any of the permit holders so it was a bit of a surprise when they went to renew. They also created the ATT specifically and only for the ATC that was originally good for three months on a 24 month ATC, and the renewal process went from 5-7 days to at minimum 8 weeks. Hopefully it gets faster than this.

Firearms Instructors and NROI Range Officers are also accepted for the competency checkout letter and there is no standard Course of Fire, it is left up to the discretion of the testor (unless they have changed that recently too).

Cheers
 
geologist said:
He had me shoot ~ 100 rounds with my .454 Casull
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OUCH!:eek: Not sure I would want to fire a 100 rounds with my .44 mag let alone a .454 Casull. I have been looking at getting my wilderness ATC for awhile now.
Thanks for the reply.
 
Good question Geo, I was told about 18 months ago that a competency certification was needed each renewal but it would be worth checking out.
If you find out can you let me know as well?
 
OOPS
it was about four years ago they made the changes, I have had two competency letters since that time....How time flies when you are having fun or is it just age?

I think it woudl be a lot of fun to get a bunch of ATC holders together to do recerts all at the same time.....make a day out of it and so some skills and drills development as well? ;)

Cheers
 
yes you will need a proficiency letter for each renewal. Peace officers can sign these as well.

One big improvement is that not only do they now issue two year ATC's, but they have eliminated the stupid 3 month ATT's and now automatically issue an ATT good for the duration of the ATC (not that the ATT isn't still silly and redundant)
 
geologist said:
I wonder if the ATC is good for 2 years from the application date May 2006 or the approval date Nov 2006?
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there is no expiry date on yours ??

mine have always expired from the date of issue
 
These types of long processing times, extra qualification etc are attempts again to make so dam difficult to obtain an ATC they are hoping people just stop applying. This is getting so ridiculous, the sooner Bruce's case trounces the majority of this freeken stupid act the better.

I fail to see how any of these "qualifications" besides perhaps drawing from a holster has anything to do with actually obtaining an ATC. I could carry my shotgun into the bush on crown land with no special "qualifications", being armed is being armed it only becomes conjecture about how you are armed after getting over that fact.

Anything greater than 60 days to obtain a permit is becoming "illusionary" under the law and is illegal.
 
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