ATRS 50 Brake
- Thread starter colt45cz75
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Don't own one but shoot a 338 Lapua with one attached, all I can say is that the 338 was very tame.. actually very very tame. I had no desire to own anything larger then my 300WM, but now I have a 338 LM in my sights. The brake works wonders.. you wont be disappointed.
BigUglyMan
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- New Scotland
If they didn't work Rick's 28lb 50 would have beaten someone to death by now!
- Location
- calgary alberta
My 50 cal "ultralight" is only 18.5 lbs and still has not beaten anyone to death
Colt
You probably won't hear much from those with HS rifles as we have only sold a dozen or so over the years and many of those rifles seem to have changed hands. We use the same brake on our own custom 50s, maybe some of those folks will chime in.
We also use exactly the same engineeering in the scaled down brakes we put on the 338s and 300s.
Hopefully some of those folks will also chime in.
You just may find that there are more people than you realize who own an HS50. Considering how many woulverine supplies sells in a year.
If you want the most accurate muzzel brake you can get for your STEYR you want a brake from VAIS Arms.
it has been proven over and over again that the most accurate muzzel brakes have 360 degree porting. If anyone wants to argue that fact go to the FCSA website and look at the muzzel brake on the riffle that set the current 50BMG world record!!
If you want the most accurate muzzel brake you can get for your STEYR you want a brake from VAIS Arms.
it has been proven over and over again that the most accurate muzzel brakes have 360 degree porting. If anyone wants to argue that fact go to the FCSA website and look at the muzzel brake on the riffle that set the current 50BMG world record!!
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- calgary alberta
Unfortunately there is NO supporting science to this theory. I have both on personal rifles and 1/2 moa still equals 1/2 moa.
The 2 things that ARE a facts is that the Vais brake is only 50% as effective in recoil reduction as our gill brake is and they blow all sorts of crap up from muzzle blast if the rifle is being shot from a prone position on anything short of concrete.
I fixed all your typos too.
Now I'm anything but an authority on muzzle brakes, but I have to say that the gill brake on my 50 works a damn site better than the the brake it had before.
Felt recoil is very much less, accuracy is improved simply because myself or anyone firing has complete control. I don't have to carry a fire extinguisher any longer when shooting in a field nor sit in the middle of a dust storm.
For me the gill brake is the only way to go, and everyone who tries a round or two through my rifle agree.....especially my teenage grandchildren.
Felt recoil is very much less, accuracy is improved simply because myself or anyone firing has complete control. I don't have to carry a fire extinguisher any longer when shooting in a field nor sit in the middle of a dust storm.
For me the gill brake is the only way to go, and everyone who tries a round or two through my rifle agree.....especially my teenage grandchildren.
- Location
- calgary alberta
Now I'm anything but an authority on muzzle brakes, but I have to say that the gill brake on my 50 works a damn site better than the the brake it had before.
Felt recoil is very much less, accuracy is improved simply because myself or anyone firing has complete control. I don't have to carry a fire extinguisher any longer when shooting in a field nor sit in the middle of a dust storm.
For me the gill brake is the only way to go, and everyone who tries a round or two through my rifle agree.....especially my teenage grandchildren.
That WAS a Vais brake that I replaced with a gill type brake on your rifle by the way.
Did you guys design all the brakes you use on your guns?
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- calgary alberta
Yes we did
And I would further point out it is not exactly rocket science to make a muzzle brake of any type that works well to reduce recoil. "Make" is also a very overused term in the world of rifle "building" as well...that would imply that work is done in house and not farmed out to some CNC shop...
BigUglyMan
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- New Scotland
I'm confused. Are you saying that your stuff is done in-house or farmed out? Or were you talking about ATRS' brakes?
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- calgary alberta
I guess it depends on whether simple recoil reduction is all that is wanted.
We put a great deal of engineering that spills from the design and manufacture of suppressors into our brakes. After several prototypes were trialed we opted for the current designs we build that not only greatly reduces recoil but also muzzle lift allowing the shooter to "see" his hits. Part of our design is to also direct the gasses away from the shooter.
Ross I know not where the rest of your statement is directed, however...
As you brought it up, we manufacture the ATRS and Spartan products in house. This includes our brakes, lowers, barrels, rails, DBM kits, chassis stocks, suppressors, UNS mounts , actions and more.
Thanks for fixing my typos!!! I appreciate it.
I agree that for prone shooting the 360 degree brake does blow dirt all over the place. it is defiantly a benchrest brake.
How come every time someone comes up with a suggestion that is not something that ATRS sells they have to run it down!!!
Were is all this supporting evidence that your gill brake is better than a Vais???? The only evidence you have is the "because i say so" evidence!!!!!
Your opinions are not evidence!!
Were is your efficiency calculation for your muzzle brake?? Type it up on here and lets see what numbers you came up with!!!!!
lets see your calculations on the Vais brake to. If your brake is twice as efficient than you would need to have the calculated efficiencies for both brakes to make such a claim rite???
I'm not saying that your brake is not good but I am saying that i think the Vais is better and is about half the cost!!!!!
I have not used your brake and i have not used the Vais brake so i can not say that one is better than the other, I have a hunch but i can not say at this point.
Once i have seen both in action than I can say.
I do know that the Vais will send dirt flying but I also know that there cheaper and that the guy holding the world record uses a 360 degree ported muzzle brake!!!! Does the ATRS 50BMG brake hold any world records?????
BigUglyMan
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- New Scotland
you gotta wonder where he was coming from when he wrote that post: I don't know which one is better, all I know is that that one is better...lol.
the difference being that i said i "THINK" the Vais is better.
I cant say for sure based on the fact that i don't have both of them in my hands!! but based on what i have read, herd and seen with other brakes my opinion would be that the Vais is a better brake as far as accuracy goes!!!!!!
Are you having a hard time telling the difference between "thinking" something is better based on its design and knowing something is better because you have used them both!!!!!!
