ATRS Update: May 20th 2020 Re: MS / MH / MV

The first and ONLY notification we have received from the RCMP regarding the prohibition that happened on May 1st.

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I'll point out, our MH, MV, and MS are not mentioned. (By make and model, and their variants) We were deemed not a variant in the inspection report.

More fuel.

This madness needs to stop those clowns in Ottawa are taking advantage of everything right now I'm not so worried about Covid 19 as I am about this government destroying our country the one that so many paid the ultimate price for so we live in a democratic country not a dictatorship
 
This madness needs to stop those clowns in Ottawa are taking advantage of everything right now I'm not so worried about Covid 19 as I am about this government destroying our country the one that so many paid the ultimate price for so we live in a democratic country not a dictatorship

Somebody gets it!! THIS truly is the big picture.
 
No offense. It is Canadian's money. And we will eventually pay back.
a buy back is more of a joke so we all pay taxes, so I save up and buy this nice upper lower set from AT which means I paid tax on that, then one day the government forces you to sell it back to them at who knows what they will offer, then the government adds up the bill and increases your taxes to pay for what you paid for in the first place see how fffffffffed up this really is people
 
The first and ONLY notification we have received from the RCMP regarding the prohibition that happened on May 1st.

RCMP-notice.png


I'll point out, our MH, MV, and MS are not mentioned. (By make and model, and their variants) We were deemed not a variant in the inspection report.

More fuel.

Seems like it's just a generic letter that was sent to all firearms retailers/manufacturers? Nothing specifically directed towards you regarding your non restricted firearms.

Looks like I'm going shooting tonight :ar15:
 
a buy back is more of a joke so we all pay taxes, so I save up and buy this nice upper lower set from AT which means I paid tax on that, then one day the government forces you to sell it back to them at who knows what they will offer, then the government adds up the bill and increases your taxes to pay for what you paid for in the first place see how fffffffffed up this really is people

I wish more people understood this. People seem to think the government gets some magical paycheque that they use to pay for things. Little do they realize the paycheque is our tax dollars. So the money that you complain about that gets taken off your paycheque and added to your purchases is where the government takes said paycheque from. And since we can seem to control this governments spending the credit card bill that we will all have to pay is bigger than we can afford.
 
That sentiment is rather self entitled. Did it possibly occur to you that that block of aluminum is paid for BY US before it ships from Alcoa and is NON returnable? Did it occur to you that the several million dollars of CNC machines and the tools they require to turn said blocks into useful parts have a cost to us? These costs that we have to cover do NOT go away just because some idiot in power of the country with a rogue government changes laws or in our case breaks the law.

You have ZERO grasp on reality when it comes to profit in the firearms manufacturing game I can assure you. Profit is FAR higher reselling groceries or cosmetics, and without the massive investment I have in machines. Profit on firearms is UNDER 20%
Believe me we have waaaaaaaaaaaay more skin in the game than you do with a $500.00 deposit.

Riddle me this. IF you purchased a super car, say it costs you $250000.00 which is pretty much entry level and the government passed a law making them prohibited to drive on public roads. Do you really think the car maker should take the hit?

Something else to think about. This gun grab is only the very tip of the iceberg so to speak. It is the largest confiscation of privately owned, legally purchased property in Canadian history. Do you really think there are not more freedoms that are about to be taken away by this rogue government? In the grand scheme of things your deposit on a legally purchased and to date NOT effected firearm means exactly, squat.

This sort of thinking that anyone but you should be on the hook when things don't turn out the way you want is perverse and near sighted. We went out on a limb years ago to offer the Canadian gun culture an option of a NR semi auto. Not a small or cheap trick I can assure you. We have had this rogue government in power for the last 5 years and from day 1 the Turd has been yapping about gun bans. IF you have in fact have an order in with us, you KNEW going in that this country is run by the Turd and the possibility of a gun ban certainly existed, yet assuming you have placed an order, proceeded anyway. AND agreed to the terms and conditions of the sale, so I am at a loss as to why we are at blame and should cover YOUR gambling debt?

Did it ever occur to you that we are filing a legal action against the government for their illegal acts AT OUR EXPENSE in order to try and protect YOUR property rights and freedoms?

To all, if I seem a tad crusty I apologize but this last month has been filled with emails and phone calls from the self entitled and those in panic. This a very stressful time for us all. IF we don't win our case we at the shop are all unemployed, several of us will lose our homes and face insolvency. Most of us here have substantial gun collections that are now worthless as they were named in the OIC. Working in firearms manufacturing is not just a job, it is a way of life. Most of us here could make considerably more income working in some other occupation. We do what we do because we love doing it.

well said I stand with you 110% a government should have no right to destroy lawful business so besides bad politics a mad man started all of this the government fails Canadians again
 
I am waiting on my receivers and parts for my new ATRS. I will NOT stop buying, and I will not stop shooting until such time as I see the firearm on an OIC or the RCMP tell me it's illegal.

I will be spending every last disposable penny on NR firearms and ammo because quite frankly, the approach of the Liberal Government has me left me with less than zero trust in our government and I am wondering what comes next? I suppose you could say the boy scout in me is strong.
 
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Id love to do so as well, but what I am worried about is if a police officer shows up and wants to see proof that it is a non-restricted. What do you do in this situation? Normally you would show the FRT, but now you cant.

Get a copy of the original FRT entry as it deems the MS as Non-restricted and not an AR variant.
 
Get a copy of the original FRT entry as it deems the MS as Non-restricted and not an AR variant.

It doesn't matter what the original FRT says.... the new one says prohibited, go take your chances.
40 yrs ago the ak47 wasn't prohibited either... think you can go shooting with one and pull up a government document from that time period and the police will say oh ok have a good day sir
 
Couple options.
1.)claim ignorance. Say you didn’t know and can’t keep up to all the changes in the law recently.
2.)lock your gun in its case. Demand a search warrant to gain entry. Hold your ground.

I live in the middle of nowhere so it’s a little easier to do than for most.
I am going to integrate my gun case into my gun Jeep. So that the case can’t be ‘commandeered’. They’ll have to tow the whole Jeep to get at the case. I’m 25 miles from the nearest police detachment. My range is in the middle of a field, in the middle of nowhere.
The LEO’s supervisor will be contacted and in the time it takes for them to get a warrant I’ll have my lawyer on standby I case things get complicated.

I am not taking this laying down.

This is what is actually needed, someone with the finances ready to legally fight the double-cooked books and the historical negationism of the original ATRS FRT.
 
ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! J.R. Cox owner of The Shooting Edge and Target Sports copied our MS, sent his copy of our receiver set to the SFSS to get an FRT 16 months ago. ONE month ago he approached me to see if I would license him to produce them. I declined simply as if it going to have my company name on it I want to be in control of the quality and material used.
This is the same J.R. Cox who brought us the prohibition of the Swiss Arms rifles during a dispute with ex business partners.

....aaaaand this is why i didnt donate to his gofundme. People dont change in my experience. I am however ready todonate when atrs gets their gofundme going.
 
What these gun-grabbing retards tend to not grasp is the fact the world runs on money. We can’t continue to print money and have it mean anything.

These business shutting down cause a loss of jobs for people. These people effectively now require to go on some sort of assistance, such as EI... which THEIR tax dollars went towards, so rightfully so.
EI and other handouts come from tax money brought in... by those that work.

You’ve effectively cut the hand that feeds you by closing businesses and increasing unemployment rates.

And let’s face it, we know most of the people screaming and REEEEEEing the loudest are all ones that get some sort of payout because they’re too incompetent to do anything meaningful with their lives.

We’’re going into a depression - and less businesses and employees means less income from the government.
Mind you, I don’t think they’ve grasped this concept - but it’s been my main means of conveying how stupid it is to layman people or those on the fence about the gun grab.

7 million guns, $1000/piece is 7 billion. I would like compensation for all my scopes and accessories that become useless now too (and as I’m a non criminal, and ‘would be compliant’ that’s not too fair to ask right?). So maybe $2000 on the low side per gun/accessories = 14 billion.

14 billion *if* we all comply and there’s no addition of logistical and man power required to actually take in the guns.
A loss of multi billion dollars each year from spending on these firearms and accessories, all of which is taxed and is revenue for Canada.
And don’t forget the newly laid off folks now tapping into an already overloaded/burdened EI/CERB market.

What a way to jump start the economy by effectively spending 14+ billion on something already proven to have 0 effects on ‘gun violence’

Nice break down. Hope those numbers work for you.

For me its not a number issue. Rest assured it isnt for the lieberals either.

My opinions, values, lifestyle are not for sale. Its not even really about firearms. Wolves should not concern themselves with the opinions of sheep. Meanwhile, we have been bending the knee to mentally handicapped sheep so long, they think they are important.
 
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