Authorization to carry: British Columbia

TTB4570

TTB4570

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Hey gang,
Apologies if this isn’t the right forum.

I was wondering if anyone has gone through the ATC process in BC somewhat recently? I am looking to apply for ATC and was looking for some pointers to make it go smoothly. As a background I’m a registered professional forester and my duties mean that I am more often than not, alone in the bush without cell coverage and with a substantial amount of surveying and sampling equipment.

I’ve read that this will probably satisfy the requirement of having wilderness work being my primary source of income AND having a job that requires my hands to be free.

Do you guys have any recommendations for training or other items I should have in advance of an application?

Further, in anticipation of bans I have ordered a 6” barreled .357 magnum and some buffalo bore rounds but I have significant practice on other handguns and revolvers of lesser size. Should I opt for something bigger or will this satisfy the CFO?

Thanks in advance!
 
Im sure you have multiple departments covered, a higher level of first aid definitely helps. It shows you have confidence to treat yourself and/or others in the scenario of a UD (unintentional doscharge)
 
Snauserdog said:
Im sure you have multiple departments covered, a higher level of first aid definitely helps. It shows you have confidence to treat yourself and/or others in the scenario of a UD (unintentional doscharge)
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As it so happens, I have my industry first aid certs (rough OFA level 1 but with tourniquets and puncture wound focus). But thanks for the idea, I hadn’t thought of that.
 
onetwentyish said:
Quite frankly I don't think this is a practical theory, what you want is something that strikes a decent balance between carriability and capability. Perhaps a 10mm Glock.
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This!^^^......ya beat me to it!!

Get a G21 in 45, buy a 10mm barrel and have a 3 in 1 unit....45 auto, 10mm and 40 S&W as the 10mm barrel will comfortably handle the 40's. And in case you've never used a glock, the barrel swap takes about 3 seconds. This is one hell of a useful and utilitarian tool in this format. Far better than 44 mag or a 357 mag choice. Especially for the use of which you describe.
 
A lot are going for the 10mms these days. Easier to qualify than the big bore revolvers, quicker follow-ups, and still pretty stout. Buffalo bore has a 10mm 220gr at 1200 ft/sec. Similar energy to their 180gr 357 outdoorsman.
 
According to the Silvercore Course notes, 357 Mag is minimum required for the WATC.
https://silvercore.ca/courses/wilderness-atc/#required

You must do the course/test with the firearm you will be carrying under the ATC.

Owning both 357 and 44 Mag revolvers I can say the 357 is 'much' easier to get a second or third shot off compared to the 44.
For wilderness protection, I would not feel as safe with a 357 compared to a 44 on a bear.
 
Actually pursuing this exact same WATC myself.

Does anyone know if .40 S&W would count as a larger caliber than .357 Mag minimum for WATC? The .357 Punches harder but the 40 Cal is easier to handle. I'm just not sure if they're going strictly by diameter sizing or power.

I mostly carry a 9mm when in the US in the wilderness and have taken down bears in extreme circumstances.
 
TTB4570 said:
Yeah I’m still debating getting a .44 mag but I found my friends to be very difficult to get more than 1-2 shots off at speed with any accuracy.
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Then you need to practice and get better with the larger gun....a 357 will keep you safe from porcupines and wolverines but when you consider a 30-06 with a properly constructed 180 grain bullet is MINIMUM for G Bear I think you have made a poor choice....a hot loaded 44 with 300 grain bullets is pretty minimal medicine in a handgun...yes it kicks...do you want a useful tool or a baby soother....maybe just smoke a joint and relax or pop a couple ativan and leave the gun at home....unless you brain him with your pea shooter you will wound him and piss him off and then you are really in a pickle....can you draw your gun and shoot something the size of a soft ball thats bouncing up and down and running towards you at 30 km an hour...I was a range instructor and taught folks armed bear encounter safety in northern BC and most folks are way better off with a pump 12 gauge with slugs or a lever or pump action large caliber rifle but if you must carry a handgun get something reasonable and practice once a month with it...
 
I've held one in BC/YT/NWT since 1987 with a gap here and there.

How you handle the application will depend a lot on whether you are an employee or a self-employed contractor.
 
I've successfully had an ATC issued outside of trapping mining etc. you can message me and I can help get you through. 10mm and .45 are kind of the minimum threshold for calibers
 
Those saying you will only have time for 2 shots are not really giving a fair consideration to the unquantifiable number of ways that an attack could play out.

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In my mind, reliability, capacity, and ability for quick reloads are all relevant considerations that make me not interested in a revolver.

Hands down, I would carry a 10mm glock for deep back country work, and a 9mm the rest of the time if I was allowed.
 
I remember a thread on here where a member detailed his ATC for his job in the bush, The qualification test was quite difficult. From what I remember a certain amount of shots in a very small target with reload and a very minimal amount of time, Made it sound anything like 44 was near impossible to complete it with. If anyone has knowledge in the matter or has done it and this is wrong feel free to correct me.
 
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