Auto 9mm with no thumb safety?
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Avalonthas
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Glock and rock
Yep...a few minutes from my house.
The mag picture on their website is wrong. Mags they sell are exactly like the mags that came with your gun.http://www.cabelas.ca/retail_stores/edmonton/
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May I ask, why the preference towards not having a thumb safety ? I'm just curious, not trolling.
Tactical advantage ? Lazyness ? Your grip position ? It just gets in the way ?
I ask because the Jericho 941 has a safety, but it's rail-mounted and isn't intrusive to grip position or hand-size. And has a fairly "small" grip-size.
My hands aren't huge, but small enough that the CZ97b felt too big after 50rds. The SP-01 Shadow fits my palm like a glove, the Jericho wasn't far behind it...
Gen 4 Glocks with the standard (no added grip) backstrap are much better for small hands than the Gen 3 and previous Glocks. They've done a great job of reducing the trigger reach. I've owned 3 Glocks (Gen 1 and 2) and sold them due to the grip, now I'm looking at getting another G19.
Guess you haven't held an M&P before. It's the most ergonomical gun I have ever owned. I also have a Gen 4 G22, no comparison IMO.
Don't have a ton of pistol experience, but owning an M&P, and shooting a fair amount a Gen 3 and 4 Glocks and a couple XDs over the years, I prefer the M&P. In my hands with the medium-sized grip, it feels great.
As well, my girlfriend can shoot it with the small grips. She normally hates to shoot most handguns because she has tiny hands, and feels very uncomfortable with a normal sized pistol grip.
As well, my girlfriend can shoot it with the small grips. She normally hates to shoot most handguns because she has tiny hands, and feels very uncomfortable with a normal sized pistol grip.
Guess you haven't held an M&P before. It's the most ergonomical gun I have ever owned. I also have a Gen 4 G22, no comparison IMO.
Actually I have well in excess of 25,000 rounds through various M&P's in both 9mm and 45. The monstrous difference (they actually hampered the shooting process for me) that there was between the Gen 3 Glock and the M&P has been reduced greatly by the Gen 4 pistols, there's now no need to H grip the gun and mag changes are much improved. This makes it easier to shoot the Glock more quickly and accurately, this is only in comparison to other Glocks, of course. Normally I would be the biggest booster of the M&P - they are a great gun, my current one is reliable in the extreme, has a great trigger and is more than adequately accurate. For someone new to the platform however, I find it hard to recomend a gun that has zero spare parts availability. I'm fine, I have at least 2 of everything that can break or wear out, and I can pull the gun apart and fix anything that may go wrong. If however you're looking at a new platform right now, the almost total lack of replacement parts available from Smith is a major problem. So Glock it is, because despite the fact that there are problems, there are also parts available. Anything can break, no big deal - IF you can get replacement parts.
As for spare parts for the M&P, you can buy just about every part from Brownells except the frame, slide and barrel. Click on the schematic link for the M&P and it gives you a breakdown of all the parts available. I bought a whole bunch of spare parts for mine. Click on the part in the schematic or click on Show SKU Listing. There are also more parts if you do a search, strange that they are not shown on the schematic page.
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=0/sid=859/schematicsdetail/MP-Semi-Auto-
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=0/sid=859/schematicsdetail/MP-Semi-Auto-
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Fluster factor. I only shoot SC one day a month over the course of the summer months. If the gun has a thumb safety you are required to use it between mag changes (fair enough). As I don't as rule use a safety to shoot paper, I'm a little remiss with this point. Also, I tend to forget to remove the safety at the of the run inorder to prove the pistol. I get flustered, once flustered, I get more flustered. Nothing that doing some drills at home would not fix. In the end I decided to find something with out a thumb safety, and besides I wanted some sort of tupperware addition to my collecton.
Do I need to put my flame suite on now?
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Striker Assembly, out of stock
Recoil Spring Assembly, out of stock
Magazine Assembly, out of stock
Magazine Spring, out of stock
Slide Stop Assembly, out of stock
Been that way for six months - not sure about Wortners, but Murray Charlton doesn't have the parts either, (given that he's down the road from me, and a warranty depot, I should have NO issues getting parts, yet I do).
Don't get me wrong, I love the M&P, at least 20,000 of the rounds I have fired through M&P's have been fired through one gun with no issues - just don't want to see someone get a lemon and be stuck. Incidentally, I just ran the OSTS/VSM course with my M&P 9, and it worked perfectly, as did the other M&P on the course. They are great guns, but the parts bit is starting to worry me - I shoot the *ss of this gun, I'm likely to need an oddball part some day.
