B.C. hunters convicted by own photos, 13 years later
- Thread starter Gatehouse
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Yes, but Yukon's Wildlife Act, RSY 2002, has a saving provision:
Though in this case it looks like they were prosecuted federally under the Wild Animal and Plant Protection and Regulation of International and Interprovincial Trade Act (S.C. 1992, c. 52), which has a similar saving provision:
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bearkilr
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Yup, I know quite a few guys that avoid the mountain range scenery pics to keep their location private, not because of illegal activity, just to not disclose their "honey hole".
Exactly. I'm sure there is a better use of money and also preventing current poaching should be the priority.
I'm not saying what they did was right. You can't un hunt them!
From the Whitehorse News paper story ...'' the court heard, and Ruddy agreed, neither MacKenzie nor Makasoff realized they had crossed the B.C. border – where they could legally hunt – into the Yukon.
They have accepted responsibility for not having the proper maps on-hand and ensuring they remained in northern B.C.
''However, it was a lack of due diligence rather than an intentional breach of the law, Gouallier said in presenting the joint submission to the court.
He reviewed the case, saying it was three years ago in 2012 that Yukon conservation officers became aware of the reported illegal hunt.
An extensive investigation followed involving Environment Canada, due to the cross-jurisdictional nature of the case.''
Fourteen feet or Fourteen Kilometers the onus is upon Us the hunter to know where we are and to be sure of our shot before and what is beyond our intended target.
These guys obviously the means to go on these hunts for Trophy Animals and able to mount a defense for their actions .
They are sorry because they got caught and the publicity will only make them a hero in some circles of the hunting community.
They are not being punished in BC, so there will be little consequences when it comes to hunting back in their Home Province ...
Tight Groups,
Rob
They have accepted responsibility for not having the proper maps on-hand and ensuring they remained in northern B.C.
''However, it was a lack of due diligence rather than an intentional breach of the law, Gouallier said in presenting the joint submission to the court.
He reviewed the case, saying it was three years ago in 2012 that Yukon conservation officers became aware of the reported illegal hunt.
An extensive investigation followed involving Environment Canada, due to the cross-jurisdictional nature of the case.''
Fourteen feet or Fourteen Kilometers the onus is upon Us the hunter to know where we are and to be sure of our shot before and what is beyond our intended target.
These guys obviously the means to go on these hunts for Trophy Animals and able to mount a defense for their actions .
They are sorry because they got caught and the publicity will only make them a hero in some circles of the hunting community.
They are not being punished in BC, so there will be little consequences when it comes to hunting back in their Home Province ...
Tight Groups,
Rob
bearkilr
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The courts also have a tendency to show more compassion to hunters whose pockets aren't so deep or perhaps claim to have committed an illegal act in order to feed their family.
But I'm sure you know all about that.
The courts also have a tendency to show more compassion to hunters whose pockets aren't so deep or perhaps claim to have committed an illegal act in order to feed their family.
But I'm sure you know all about that.
Actually bearkilr, they where virtually unknown in circle of their respective Province for Hunting infractions.
It is well known that if one has been caught breaking a law there have been laws broken before they are caught.
Kinda like drinking and driving there are several events before one has been caught.
As for feeding the family since when has a Dall Sheep ever become the poor mans venison ?
There are hunters who go to great extremes to spot , stalk and then judge whether it is a legal Ram or a ''Ram of Their Life''
Just saying there are more sides to the story and a 14km error is not an error in lack of planning.
My GPS tells me how far i have walked and at what average speed I have been traveling...no maps of the area??
They left those in the float plane or they didnt buy any before this hunt because that was money for food for their wee little ones?
I think not.
Tight Groups,
Rob
btw, those who live in glass houses shouldnt toss stones stones... myself included.
Hey Rob,
Where they prancing around in pink tutu's out there in the bush - maybe that's why they got bust eh?
bearkilr
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Sorry, you misunderstood. All I was eluding to is that there are basically two sets of laws in this country, depending on ethnicity and social well being.
Basically what I meant to say is that in your profession you know which cases are worth pursuing and which ones should just be dropped because the courts will just toss them anyway.
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In this case, they made a deal, were allowed to say they were lost, and recieved a pretty light sentence. They must have known they were guilty and didnt want to risk a much more costly fine/huntung restriction and pointless legal fees.
yes we have been given the name of the hunters, the other guide was not shown on the last end court paper.
not in Yukon, a non resident guide need a guide for his own hunt. most of the time they have camera crew that act like guide for the guide ...
we are still for the explanation about why the sheep where not seized but soon or late we will know.
for the name they are in the court order i can give you the info here but can direct you.
bearkilr
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If it's supposed to be public knowledge you can find it on CanLII otherwise I'd be careful of what names get posted on a public forum.
Maybe we need a "Witchhunt and whistleblower" forum on CGN.
No worries bearkilr, I understood your point, up to the emote of the smiley face.
But, my response was not based on that .
My reply was to reaffirm my position on the two and a third if one wished to toss a stone inside a glass house at the guide/outfitter.
That there is way more to this story and the way the courts work.
If it where an aboriginal issue the bands involved would have dealt with it in another way...( this comment is not meant to derail the original topic).
So again bearkilr, I understand your points of view and respect that !
Tight Groups,
Rob
